Has Biden forgotten that he was vaccinated in DECEMBER?

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  1. ImNotOliver

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    Sure you did, sure you did. Have a cookie and run along, like a good little boy.
     
  2. Pollycy

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    I used official government-produced demographic statistics. Of course the Denver METRO AREA has more people than Colorado Springs. I said "Denver County" and I MEANT "Denver County". I didn't mention Boulder, which, incidentally, has very few Blacks, AND, very little violent crime (as you said....) Mysterious... right? Parenthetically, I didn't mention Aurora, Colorado, either... which has quite a few more Blacks, and -- guess what? -- quite a lot more violent crime when compared with Boulder....

    You went off on a puzzling 'sidebar' about everything from "Jon Bonnet (sic) Ramsey" (did you mean JonBenét...? :razz:), to "Fredrico (sic) Pena" (did you mean "Federico Peña...? :razz:), to some sort of disconnected, undocumented twaddle about the injection of "unsuspecting Black people with certain substances, like radioactive material, or toxic chemicals" in the 1940's and 1950's (?).

    In all, your understanding of both Denver and Colorado Springs is, uh, spotty, at best, and has nothing to do with the topic of poor, senile ol' Joe evidently forgetting that he was vaccinated last DECEMBER, but, hopefully, it wasn't with the same "radioactive material, or toxic chemicals" you referred to earlier.
     
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    Why are we still talking about this? Notice how Harris framed what she said — “there was no national strategy or plan for vaccinations.” She was right.

    As an example, the official pointed to the plan to vaccinate people through pharmacies. The program had been announced by the Trump administration, but when Biden officials asked pharmacy officials about how it would work, pharmacy executives responded that they knew little beyond what was in the initial news release.

    Drug industry officials say this is correct. “When we first started talking to the Biden team during the transition, it was unclear what the federal pharmacy partnership program was going to look like, and key details (doses, timing, etc.) were missing,” an executive at a top pharmacy chain told The Fact Checker, speaking on the condition of anonymity to avoid political ramifications. “Those details were critical for us, obviously, as we needed to be prepared to activate. What we’ve seen over the last several weeks is a clear national plan emerge.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...laim-biden-vaccine-plan-was-starting-scratch/

    The nuanced distinction being the Trump admin doling out vaccine to states while relying on them to create their own, disparate distribution plans, and the national plan developed by the Biden admin which did not exist when Biden took over. A plan that has significantly increased the average daily doses administered.
     
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    Simply amazing how left wingers will go to great lengths to cover up and lie about what the ding bat twins Biden and Harris said.
     
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    It's simply amazing the lengths to which right wingers try to distort what was said in order to distract from the fact the Biden admin's plan has resulted in a speeding up of the vaccine being administered.
     
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    So your intention was to express your opinion about Blacks? I thought you were arguing that Colorado Springs was somehow better than Denver, being more conservative and all. Of course your silly argument doesn’t hold up when actually compared to Denver, and even less so than Portland and Boulder, the most liberal city in America. It only holds up if you limit the scope and ignore a whole lot of things to know.

    You asked why Blacks don’t like getting vaccines. But that isn’t your reason for posting what you did, is it. It was your pretending you are superior and my words confusing, thus inferior.

    So now we are back to pretending that Joe Biden is senile and apparently I know nothing about what I am talking about. Some how you are not impressing me. But then, if I was to become one of them thar smart conservative types, I jest might end up getting as learned up as you.
     
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    Meanwhile Steve Bannon, while working for Dirty Donald in the White House, came to the conclusion that Dirty Don had early onset dementia and was trying to concoct a scheme of removing him from office via the 25th amendment.
     
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    And right wingers have nothing to say about Trump saying the COVID would disappear like magic and ingesting disinfectants would knock out COVID instantly from the lungs Now, who is a greater dingbat,,Trump or Biden?.
     
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    We knew fake news media would coddle Biden — here’s why it’s much worse.
    They are "the propaganda corps of the Democrat Party and the American gentry class. Then they wonder why they’re not trusted, even as they make plain that the only reason they care about being trusted is so that they can be more effective at their propaganda mission."

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/433699/
     
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    You said that DESTROYING livelihoods including many black people's livelihoods is all about civil rights! :roflol:
     
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    Your point was:

    1: "One was a press release nit a news conference." - I destroyed that by showing that there was TWO press conferences!

    2: "The other was he condemned the KKK in a single sentence and then veered off." - I destroyed that referencing TWO press conferences in which he specifically condemned white supremacy.

    Also, above you pretended that your original point was "one line mentioning white supremacy." Your point, as I quoted above, was "he condemned the KKK in a single sentence."

    A word of advice: I'm too good at this. Quit now while you still can! (Just like so many other members before you who have tried their best to take me on!) :roflol:

    Uh, no, I'm sure that Trump was reading off a teleprompter for those press conferences. How telling that you said, "would you like me to show you a video of Biden condemning violence" and not, would you like me to show you a video of Biden condemning antifa! :roflol:
     
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    No I didn’t.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    What are good at, making lame arguments, making stuff up and then pretending you won the debate?
     
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    Quote: "The violence associated with the Black Lives Matter protests was about civil rights." :roflol:
     
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    Well at least we know what you are.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? If you are totally unaware that the violence DESTROYED livelihoods including many black people's livelihoods, then there is no hope for you.
     
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    As I said right up-front in my Post #152, "I used official government-produced demographic statistics." You were the one who wanted to inject a lot of undocumented, peripheral speculation into the discussion, which, of course, is your prerogative. But, maybe I accorded too much regard for your opinion initially... after all, you didn't even bother to familiarize yourself with the NAMES of people you referred to in your meandering textual journey toward the manufacture of a 'point'. I know I shouldn't ask, but it would be vaguely interesting to know what you majored in in college....

    Anyway, Blacks can get vaccinated or not get vaccinated. As far as I'm concerned, until the day comes (as I suspect it will within a year from now) when we MUST all be vaccinated, and, be able to PROVE it, it remains each citizen's right to refuse the injection of anything into their bodies because of a 'government-decree'.

    Anyway, back roughly on topic, if ol' Joe is, indeed, in possession of a sound mind, ostensibly capable of remembering something somewhat out-of-the-ordinary that occurred to both himself and Harris (i.e., VACCINATION), why did he say what he said...?

    Afterthought: No, at this point I would not (NOT) want Biden to leave the presidency! Because that would immediately give Harris complete power, and the only thing worse I can imagine is... uh, well, um, lemme see.... No, actually, I CAN'T imagine anything worse than that.... :lonely:
     
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    Boy you have some twisted reality. You showed there were TWO press conferences. Oh my! But you fail to acknowledge that Trump only mentioned the KKK one time, but that's perfectly acceptable to you even though you harp on Biden for condemning antifa only one time. The entire premise of your argument rests on Biden not going on some long diatribe about Antifa/BLM, something which Trump does not do in the press conferences also. Did Trump condemn the KKK? Sure, mentioned them in one sentence but he made it a point to condemn violence on both sides just like Biden did, but you are upset at the way Biden approached it for whatever reason.

    You insinuated Biden never called out antifa, and then I showed you he did and then you became nitpicky saying "the answer was fed to him," a tactic one uses when one has thoroughly lost a debate.

    Question, when Biden says he condemns all violence from the right and left, that has to include antifa and blm violenc because according to the MSM, those groups are part of the left. Or are you going to somehow twist yourself into a pretzel and teach me that "all" doesn't include everyone lol!!!
     
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    Yes, which utterly DESTROYED your claim that one of Trump's statements wasn't in a press conference! :roflol:

    At least Trump actually MENTIONED the KKK, whereas Biden didn't mention antifa in his PISS weak condemnation which he had to be FED. Anyway, why are you so focused on the KKK? I don't even think that it's relevant that he condemned the KKK. Not even the wildest leftist has ever accused Trump of not specifically condemning the KKK. They're irrelevant piles of human waste. The KEY is condemning the ideology - white supremacy. And Trump has done so MOST convincingly!

    When the hell did I say anything about a "long diatribe?"

    Trump condemning violence on both sides was in response to the media focusing EXCLUSIVELY on the right wing violence at Charlottesville, even though it wasn't anything like even an 80%/20% split between left and right violence. The BLM/antifa riots though was 99% left wing and 1% right wing, so while I don't have a problem with Biden condemning violence on both sides, he can't say it with anywhere NEAR the same legitimacy as Trump did.

    Except the answer was LITERALLY fed to him! :roflol:

    No it's fine, but you didn't think that it was okay for Trump to do after Charlottesville! :roflol:
     
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    Trump has also released a statement condemning violence, so yes one of his statements does not include a press conference.


    Why does Biden need to mention Antifa? He said he condemns all acts of violence from everyone. Everyone includes Antifa. Do you agree. If you have proof of Biden sayin Antifa isn't included, show it. Otherwise you are making unverified claims.



    You got huffy when I showed you proof of Biden condemning Antifa violence and then started moving the goalposts saying "well he condemned it, but it was fed to him." Biden has consistently condemned violence from all sides. But you are not satisfied why? Because he didn't name them by name? So I can only guess you want him go on a long diatribe about Antifa because you are cloudy on what "all" means.

    Here is what "all" means: the whole number; every one
    Here is what "whole" means: comprising the full quantity, amount, extent, number, etc., without diminution or exception; entire, full, or total:

    If you think the definition of "all" should be revised to not include Antifa, pleased contact Merriam-Webster Inc.


    Well, even Sean Hannity admitted the Charlottesville violence was provoked by white supremacists. Well, if the BLM/antifa riots were 99% left wing then why doesn't Biden's statement hold any weight?

    He has to be talking about the left wing right because it was 99% left wing right?



    How so? The reporter asked a question and Biden and he answered. If the reporter said. "You condemn BLM violence right, Mr. Biden," you might have a point. Answering questions is not having answers fed to you lol.


    Do you have what I posted concerning Charlottesville or are you falsely attributing something to me?
     
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    Look, it's VERY simple. I said that Trump held a press conference denouncing white supremacy after Charlottesville, and you disputed it! Then I demonstrated that you were utterly wrong!

    Why does Trump need to mention white supremacy?

    Sometimes things need to be SPECIFICALLY called out BY NAME. White Supremacy should be SPECIFICALLY called out BY NAME following a white supremacist attack. So too, antifa should be SPECIFICALLY called out BY NAME following antifa violence. Yet Biden was totally unable to do it. Now is the point where you refer to that PATHETIC exchange with that interviewer! :roflol:

    Saying something along the lines of what Trump said in regards to white supremacy is hardly a "long diatribe!"

    Well he's right, in the sense that they were the ones who were the initial spark. But then in came antifa, who provoked the white supremacists, adding fuel to the fire.

    Because 99% obviously justifies calling it out BY NAME! Biden had NO PROBLEM at all with specifically calling out "the far right" and white supremacy by name following the Kyle Rittenhouse shooting (even though he isn't a white supremacist.) Why do you think he was perfectly able to specifically call out "the far right" and white supremacy by name, but not the far LEFT and antifa when they were the only ones doing violence day after day?

    At that particular Portland event specifically, it was obviously not 99% left wing, in terms of who was on the streets, because it included alot of right wing people. But I'm not sure what you're asking here. I will say that this was the first time that Biden referred to a specific event at a specific location. Now why do you think that was? Might it have had anything to do with it being the first event where a right wing group showed up? Biden's Portland statement is FILLED with jabs at Trump! It was simply politically opportunistic for Biden to speak on this event. If you think that he would've done the same thing if Patriot Prayer hadn't showed up, but someone was still shot and killed, you're KIDDING yourself! Where was Biden's outrage for previous BLM riot related killings? It's not as if Portland was the first!

    Yeah, alright, so it's not that the ANSWER was fed to him, but the point is that the OPPORTUNITY to condemn antifa was fed to him! Trump didn't need such an opportunity to condemn white supremacy after white supremacist violence. He was able to do so under his OWN STEAM!

    Also, Biden COVERED for antifa during the first debate with Trump by describing them as an "idea!" Yes almost-senile-Joe - a BAD idea you idiot! :roflol:

    Oh, so will you openly admit that it was perfectly okay for Trump to talk about violence on both sides? I doubt that somehow! :roflol:
     
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    Read my post again. I never disputed. I asked when did he do it. Asking a question is not disputing something. You made the claim Biden never condemned Antifa. I never made such a claim against Trump.



    I never thought he did.




    Why does Biden need to specifically mention Antifa? Did you know a majority of those arrested for arson and looting have no Antifa ties? Does that matter? The media has distorted the "antifa" movement and characterized every left wing act as having Antifa undertones which is simply incorrect. It's been butchered into a catch all phrase. Even the MSM was falsely attributing the capitol riots to antifa. The media wanted Biden to feed into this boogeyman theory that associates antifa with every act of left wing violence because they wanted an enemy to scare the masses. He didn't fall for it.

    Biden never called Rittenhouse a white supremacist. If you are referring to the video Biden posted that featured Rittenhouse's image, he stated "white supremacists and militias." Rittenhouse is certainly part of a militia.



    Biden wasn't president. He can't just call a press conference willy nilly at the snap of his fingers and have all the media cover it.

    Also, Biden COVERED for antifa during the first debate with Trump by describing them as an "idea!" Yes almost-senile-Joe - a BAD idea you idiot! :roflol:



    I think it was appropriate for Trump to call out violence on both sides because both sides were being violent. I will also say sometimes he is taken out of context. Will you admit the same is done with Biden when people only provide a single sentence out of an interview so they can misconstrue what was said?
     
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    And then I replied with the two press conferences, and you said "thanks for proving my point." And your "point" was "one was a press release nit a news conference. The other was he condemned the KKK in a single sentence and then veered off."

    Sure, but disputing something is disputing something.

    Nope. I asked a question. Asking a question is not making a claim. Back in post #100, I asked, "when did Biden specifically call out antifa?" Link to post #100: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ted-in-december.585195/page-4#post-1072457667

    Then, in reply to me, you posted a Twitter link to the utterly PATHETIC and doddering old Joe, saying "yes, I condemn all violence" in attempt to prove that he specifically CALLED OUT antifa!

    Really? Are you actually a white supremacist? Because I can't see who would be against the President condemning white supremacy by name other than an actual white supremacist. White supremacy is EVIL and it MUST be called out after any white supremacy event! I think that Trump didn't do anywhere NEAR a good enough job of condemning it during that first press conference following Charlottesville, focusing way too much on the "both sides" aspect. Thankfully he redeemed himself

    So then why do you suppose they were looting and rioting?

    No it doesn't matter. The fact is that antifa was the driving FORCE of the unrest. If you can't see that then there's no hope for you. Are you suggesting that if the majority of those ARRESTED (not even the majority of people involved) DID have antifa ties, only then would it justify specifically mentioning Antifa? Perhaps even THEN you wouldn't think it's justified! Perhaps you can state if you think that it would EVER be justified.

    Surely you mean specifically right wing media.

    So Biden specifically called out white supremacists even though they weren't even involved? So you see how EASY Biden can call out white supremacy! Even when they're not even involved! :roflol:

    Oh you CANNOT be serious! The Democratic candidate for President cannot call a press conference whenever he wants? Unbelievable how much you are covering for him! And it's not as if it needed to be a press conference! The doddering old fool seemed MOST capable at doing statements from his basement, where he spent a HUGE chuck of his PATHETIC and laughable campaign. :roflol:

    Alright, but you don't think that he should have singled out white supremacy?

    Yes, no question about it. Now, will you admit that the same dominant left wing media force which provided NO context to anything that Trump said for four years, are now providing context for Biden?
     
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    The Heroes Act hasn't been passed has it?
     
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    Which is what? And I see that you STILL cannot stand by your position!
     

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