How much of Palestine should the Arabs get back? - <MOD WARNING>

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How much of Palestine should the Arabs get back?

  1. Gaza & the West Bank up to the Seperation Barrier

    8 vote(s)
    19.5%
  2. Back to the 1967 borders.

    23 vote(s)
    56.1%
  3. Back to UN Resolution 181 borders.

    5 vote(s)
    12.2%
  4. The whole thing.

    5 vote(s)
    12.2%
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  1. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that has been already offered and it was refused by Palestine. Palestine doesn't want peace all they want is the elimination of Israel by any and all means it is their one and only goal
    how do you negotiate with a people that teach their kids from birth to hate and to kill Jews
     
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    Look, pal - time for improvisation is at an end. Please produce your sources. Good luck!

    They didn't get to chose sqat: Deir Yassin happened before May 1948.

    Come on, Borat, you are familiar with what I can produce here: The massacres, the Jewish war gangs criminal past and collaboration with the Nazi regime, the terrors acts that they committed on the Brits, the dec;arations of their leaders... Do we really have to go throught all of it again?
     
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    There's an important difference: in conquished territories, the population is generally annexed and live by the conqueror standards. The Palestinians are treated like sqatters on their own lands as Isreal wants the territory, but not the untermenschen that live on it.
     
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    First, no nation exists solely to bother another one. Humans on this planet all share the same desire for peace, prosperity and security. Yes, they do, each in its own way.

    Second, which culture teach its children that they are from some superior race (by blood, mind you, not by chosen religion) and that to touch others can make them impure?
     
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    How much of Israel should the Palestinians get for their aggression? None.
     
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    Aggression, or resistance?
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    another mis or uniformed Anti Semite

    Muslim Palestinians teach children to hate in cartoons
    https://youtu.be/VWwCKvvodBA

    Hamas to kids: Shoot all the Jews

    https://youtu.be/0ORAM-usqhQ

    palestinian kid "jews are apes" - parents teaching kids to hate jews, propaganda

    https://youtu.be/d2dCVlAmVr8

    do you need more you tube is full of them
     
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    Well, they are people of their time. Who forces them to live in such terror and injustice? You think it would be better if they ignored the living room's elephant? It isn't because of cartoons or education that Palestinians resent zionists. It's because of real, contemporary events.

    You think you would be wiser to the point that you would represent your aggressors as the good guys in your own TV cartoons? I don't know where you're from, but I don't believe it for a second. In fact, there are occidental publications and TV shows that pictred M-Easterners as ignorant barbarians well before 9-11, and for a lot less reasons than the Palestinians have of doing likewise.

    I see you have ignored my question - which was, I remind you, about which religion that is based on blood rather than faith.
     
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    for a people you claim want peace that want to live peacefully beside Jews why then would you teach your children to hate and kill Jews?
     
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    What about nothing? Like what happens if they do get it back? Theocracy?
     
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    Arab massacres of Jews in Palestine started in the early 1920s and haven't ended till this day. Duh. Needless to say the Jews retaliated as they should have. Oh and given the animosity in the land don't you think the partition solution - two states for two peoples was the right thing to do? But of course the Arabs chose to drive the Jews into the sea instead. That did not quite worked out as planned but certainly not for the lack of trying when 8 arab armies attacked tiny one day old Israel. The arabs have no one to blame but themselves for what happened after that.


    PS LOL, don't be silly, North America was colonized, the land was stolen from the native population. I don't see how this can possibly be disputed, together with the fact that based on your own logic you should go back to France.
     
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    Of course they were, in 1945 all residents of Palestine (Jews and Arabs and Christians and others) were called Palestinians and they were indeed majority in every district. I am impressed with your incredible knowledge but the Palestinian Arabs had no reason to reject the partition and attempt to wipe Israel off the map. And now they have no one to blame but themselves.
     
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    Gaza and West Bank only. The Arabs lost the wars that they initiated since 1948 against the State of Israel in fact the Arabs should be obligated to compensate Israel for those aggressive wars against Israel since 1948. For any peace to prosper the Palestinians must first renounce the the destruction of Israel.
     
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    Every premise here is pure Israeli propaganda
     
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    As if Israel hasn't taught the same?

    Actually in the 2014 Israel - Gaza conflict Israel killed more Arabs, than Arabs killed Jews.

    Explanation?
     
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    No actually arabs were a majority in every district. You be more precise .

    They had every reason. Why wouldn't they want to stop Zionist immigration and division?
     
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    How dare Arabs fight invaders of their land.
     
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    please post where Jewish children at school on TV is taught the same
     
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    Colonialism is wrong unless Jews do it right?

    The Nakba resembles the Trail of Tears.
     
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    Because of what they did and are doing.
     
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    Many Israeli Jews clearly don't like Palestinians themselves.
     
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    Why when a map of Israeli expansion would suffice?
     
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    Might I remind you that Palestinians are also Semites.

    In fact Palestinians are more Semitic by DNA than the typical Ashkenazi Jews, or Sephardi Jews who inhabit Israel today, as Ashkenazi, and Sephardi Jews mixed with some European.
     
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    and then I will post a map showing the expansion of the United States over the years as some how that proves something
     
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    Jews and Arabs migrated to Palestine, mostly legally, according to the law of the land... You Brits in fact controlled the land, established and enforced its laws. Duh lol Given the situation in the land, two states for two peoples was the only sensible thing to do. Too bad 0.15 % of the regional land on which Israel was established was 0.15% too many.
     
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