I think I was date-raped last weekend, what should I do?

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  1. Beast Mode

    Beast Mode New Member

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    This is a good place for this:

    [video=youtube;XzJC9OCT0ss]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzJC9OCT0ss&list=PL81AC9F01847C758D&index=151&feature=plpp_video[/video]
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    So do you really believe you were date raped or not?
     
  3. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    well, according to the definition currently accepted by women, I was dateraped.
     
  4. OLD PROFESSOR

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    So, as the spokesman for most women, what is date-rape? I await "the definition accepted by most women," because you would know,wouldn't you. The joke is over.
     
  5. SFJEFF

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    I addressed this- just you are ignoring the answers that don't further your agenda

    Nope- the guy you were with could still have raped you.

    But as I pointed out from the beginning- you never expressed any sense of being violated. This is why I thought this phony from the start.

    But note- I gave you serious advice- which I still will give-

    If you think you were date raped= call a rape hotline.

    Doesn't matter if you are a guy who thinks the guy you slept with raped you or if you are a girl.

    If you wake up feeling like you were violated, save the physical evidence- call a rape hot line.

    If you decide there was criminal behavior, go to the hospital- they will call the police.

    In all of this- you have yet to say you feel violated or raped.

    And this is the point which you so clearly don't get.

    You don't feel that you were raped or taken advantage of. You just feel that life is unfair if you are a man.
     
  6. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    doesn't matter, if I was a girl, no "feeling of rape" is needed. If a guy sleeps with a drunk girl, he's a bastard rapist.

    I definately regret it.... that's all girls need
     
  7. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    The OP started the thread to TRIVIALISE date-rape.

    Notice the OP doesn't link or back up anything he says. Just his dunderheaded nonsense on display.

    Some examples of date-rape here, with a link provided to read more:



    http://www.aboutdaterape.nsw.gov.au/...s/stories.html
     
  8. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If your 'rapist' bank account has 'deep pockets' you could sue for 'mental distress' possibly but, you, being male, are at a distinct disadvantage. Sorry.
     
  9. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    exactly the point of this thread.... the double standard that is dimissed by those who scream loudest for equality.
     
  10. Gwendoline

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    The opening post was entirely disingenuous. There is no point to this thread. No doubt the real reason for your preoccupation with date-rape is something you won't tell us, but I could take a guess, which would factor in:

    1. Your bragging about screwing around - particularly from that other thread you made about date-rape being a fake crime
    2. Drinking yourself stupid
    3. Your ugly, grubby regard for women
    4. Your almost total 'disconnect' as to what rape IS
     
  11. JavisBeason

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    all of which are great excuses for you to focus on instead of the very obvious double standard.....

    Keep weaving and ducking....
     
  12. Bowerbird

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    What weaving and ducking?
     
  13. JavisBeason

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    Gelwendoline trying to ignore the very valid point this thread is making by dismissing it as me bragging about sexual conquests, etc.

    Valid point.... if i was a girl, this story is considered daterape, even with me initiating it based on my level of drunk. But as a guy, this is NOT considered date rape, and its being dismissed as an alcoholic guy bragging

    Could you imagine the outrage if a girl was called an alcoholic if she was in my situation?

    Bottom line.... this girl who i would never have slept with sober, took advantage of the fact i was drunk and horny.
     
  14. Bowerbird

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    As I stated earlier - it would be date rape without a doubt because you stipulated the male did use a condom ergo he had more control than she did - in fact he would have had far more control given the amount of alcohol you were alleging was ingested - not all women realise that their physiology makes them more vulnerable to the effects of alcohol and that the toxic level is lower for women.

    So let me ask you a question - is it acceptable to "roll a drunk" just because they are drunk?
     
  15. JavisBeason

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    If you cant handle your alcohol without making bad choices....dont drink.....applies to both genders.


    But what is "roll a drunk"
     
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    Rob someone who is drunk - must be slang...........
     
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    I`m betting he feels violated now. I even felt dirty and creepy from just reading your thoughts.
     
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    Robbery is robbery..... but take some precautions yourself if ypu are going tk be stupid drunk.

    The thought that a woman can be held accountable for her drunk decisions if she were to drive, yet somehow be able to blame the man for drunk sex that she even initiated is what is so headscratching to me.
     
  19. Bowerbird

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    It is the man's responsibility as to what he does with his "boy bits". If he does not want them to end up in jail he keeps them in his pants.

    If robbery is robbery no matter what then rape is rape no matte what

    And rape is sexual intercourse that is unwanted or unsolicited by one party
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    So you are saying, it`s the man`s responsibility prior to sex to :

    a. Take a blood sample from the woman, and analize whether she is affected by alcohol or drugs?
    b. Have her psychoanalysed to ascertain whether there is risk that she may have regrets at a later date?
     
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    I know this is a troll post to begin with, but I'll answer it anyways.

    While laws governing rape vary state to state... the general consensus is that date rape occurs when the intent of the "assailant" is to make sexual contact with a "victim" who, regardless of the willingness of the victim to consent to sexual contact or not, is unable to rebuke their advances. It's a clear case when a so called date-rape drug is used to incapacitate the victim. Less clear when the party is partially incapacitated by their own design, such as with drinking. There, one would have to argue intent of the assailant. Were they acting because the victim was lacking the capacity to decline?

    The questions in this scenario would need to establish one of the following:
    1) that the victim had no intention of engaging in sexual contact with the assailant and it was reasonable to assume that the assailant would be aware of this.
    2) the assailant's intention was based on the capacity of the victim
    3) A reasonable person would be able to conclude that the victim lacked the capacity to decline sexual advances.

    As the OP clearly does not believe that date rape can be a real offense, I offer that it is... Two drunk people going at it like rabbits isn't a date rape, even if one or more parties in question do not remember it the next day... sexual contact with somebody unconscious is date rape, even if that incapacity is from alcohol.

    Edit:

    To put this into context. A guy having sex with a woman who passed out is rape. Two drunk people going at it, and one passes out, the activity needs to stop or you cross that line. A woman can be guilty as well if she initiates sexual contact while a man is unconscious. (try telling your significant other that waking you up with a BJ is technically rape)
     
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    No, simpler than that - and most who are NOT led by their testicles do manage it

    Surely it is easy to spot if someone is "under the influence"?

    Rape is about unequal power relationship - if the woman is so "out of it" she cannot remember what really happened as per your OP and the man is "with it" enough to put on a condom as per your OP then there is an unequal power relationship
     
  23. FFbat

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    I'd argue that unequal power relationship isn't the key, because there is nothing wrong with a little BDSM, as long as the parties consent. The issue in rape in general is that the 'victim' needs to have the option to say no. Take away that possibility, and it's rape.

    Woman Allegedly rapes would be robber.

    This story points that it can go both ways. The woman in question, allegedly, beat some guy (regardless of the crime he was attempting) and then tied him up and raped him. Seeing a picture of the woman... I doubt that the man would have declined her offer, should she had given him a choice. ;)

    But she, never-the-less, didn't give him a choice. And that's rape.
     
  24. Bowerbird

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    And there is the key "as long as the parties consent" shows and implicit equality of power

    Where I am coming from with this is we consider any age difference in a relationship between a young person and an adult where there is more than 5 years difference to be unlawful because of the unequal power relationship
     
  25. mikezila

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    i knew the gender roles in this. before you go to the police, are you sure it wasn't your idea? and you realize they're going to laugh at you, eh?
     

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