Jesus Christ is no myth part II

The events that happened to Jesus, to the Apostles that led to the revelation and acceptance of God was not created nor started by unknown people the people that were involved were all historical. The problem as always is the blind denial of history by anti God people and this goes back to Eisenhower great quote;
“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”

Thanks to the Bible writers and none Bible writers they were able to record the historical events of Jesus Christ the sad part is and as confirm by Eisenhower that there will always be some bastard will get up and say that this never happened

 

Actually, he did not died in doubt as to who he is. Him crying out "My God, My God why hast thou forsaken me?" couple of things, this confirm that God does exist and that was why Jesus called him out, that he was crucified because of blasphemy. It confirm that indeed Jesus is the Son of God, and the problem is why are trying to define God based on our understanding not based on God's.

 

The Bible, Tacitus, Josephus and Talmud were used as primary source by archaeologist, scientist, historians, and philosophers in discovering and learning about the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth. Anti God or atheist on the other hand have no sources at all except their deep indoctrinated personal view.

It was through primary sources about King Arthur that we understand that the story is a myth.

The Battle of the Teutoborg Forest that involved thousands of soldiers took many years to be recorded and the site to be discovered and it was from writing from Tacitus that historians use to learn about the Battle just like they learn about Jesus Christ historicity.

Scholars are fully aware that Illiad and Odyssey are fictional. It is not surprising that that anti God people do not.

 

I have read this assertion several times now. It wasn't true the first time you said it, it won't be Any turer after the 50th time you say it.

If you don't have anything new to present I believe the conversation has reached its natural conclusion. All that's left is agree to disagree.

 

Eisenhower saw Jesus? That guy really got around, didn't he? Did he get some video of zombie Jesus?

 

History is unchangeable there is nothing to assert about history that is why for the past thousands of years history has been and has remain the same the historicity of Jesus Christ is what it is not based on faith but based on historicity.

There is nothing to agree to disagree it is like saying that earth is flat when we know that it is not or that the holocaust did not happened when we know it did, there is only one path and that is to agree.

 

Yes, Eisenhower, Lincoln, Einstein, Newton, Galileo, historians, scholars etc. etc. etc. all agree the historicity of Jesus Christ. It is also agreed that anti God, anti history, anti science individuals accept zombies is real and historicity of Jesus Christ is not real.

 

You have no proof, no evidence. You have nothing to support your claim but your assumption. People in other religions make different assumptions. Prove them wrong.

 

You're making an appeal to authority. Just because someone might know how to make cheese it doesn't mean that he has a clue how to make a flat screen tv.

Christianity is based upon the belief that Jesus was a zombie and that Christians will also become zombies themselves. It's the whole point of the religion. Muslims also think that they will become zombies but that they will have perfect bodies.

 

I have no assumption only in support of actual historical facts that Jesus Christ is historically. Scholars, scientist, great leaders and researchers turn to primary sources the Bible writings of Tacitus, Josephus and the Talmud to discover and confirm the historicity of Jesus Christ that Christians and many none Christians agree with.

 

Christianity is based on reality that was confirm by historians, scientist and scholars based on primary sources the Bible, writings of Tacitus, Josephus and the Talmud. Atheist, anti history, anti God based their assumptions on voodooism, wizardry, magic and fiction that is why they believe zombies are real and they prepare themselves for the zombie apocalypse as they predicted will soon happen due to the many zombie shows.

 

Jesus of Nazareth is. Whether he was christ is a matter of purly faith.

Present it.

 

Aliens probably do not talk like humans either but, this does not stop them from being smarter than humans.

 

Most of your "historically" claims do not show that a messianic figure by the name of Yeshua actually existed.

While there probably was some Jewish fellow named Yeshua who had a group of disciples and promoted an messianic message .. there were numerous other Jewish fellows promoting a messianic message prior to, and after the time of Yeshua.

It was a common thing to do in the first century. Regardless, while the idea that some fellow named Yeshua was founder of Christianity may not be myth, many of the stories humans made up about Yeshua are.

 

Jesus of Nazareth is accepted by scholars and by some atheist as historically real, the issue is his divinity. It was Jesus miracles that attracted the Jewish rulers, the rulers tried to disproved his miracles unsuccessfully. They could have executed Jesus instead they manipulated the Romans to execute Jesus for them and the reason was the rulers have some doubt that Jesus might be telling the truth that he maybe the Messiah or the Son of God.

Since the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth is acknowledge and it is his divinity that is being denied by atheist we must go back to understanding God the problem is that we have been setting a human standard as to what is God. To truly learn whether God is real or not we must turn to theology, philosophy and history. Since the first human intelligent appeared in this earth planet the awareness of God started it did not started during the time of Jesus or in the 20th century.

Today, science is researching about the reality of God the latest discovery the God-particle or Higgs-Boson prove that creation did not started by chance. In fact we can say that science has been learning about God. The CERN emblem surprisingly is the goddess of Shiva.
[video=youtube;nEkWz6DAAOU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEkWz6DAAOU[/video]

 

Jesus was different from the rest of those messianic messengers or prophets, Jesus performed several miracles it was his miracles that attracted the Jewish rulers and gained him many followers.

If it is all man made stories the creators or authors of Jesus Christ must be very well educated, sophisticated and complicated beyond their time that they were able to outsmart and outwit the Jewish rulers and Roman rulers.

 

I'm not watching 25 minutes of trash. Science hasn't discovered god. I don't care for long winded jokes.

There is no proof of a god. There never will be. You must take it on faith.

The discussion has ceased. You simply asserting what you believe to be history isn't proof.

 

We do not know if Jesus was any different from the rest. We do not know that the "miracles" attributed to Jesus were not myth made up after the fact. It would not be the first time miraculous deeds were attributed to a human.

Jewish and Roman leaders were not outsmarted. If anyone was outsmarted it was Jesus who ended up on a cross. Jesus was outsmarted by his belief in God by his own admission in his last breath "My God My God ... why have you forsaken me"

 

According to the bible which contains parts that were proven false. You can't use any biblical text to support your argument.

Or the authors wrote it after the fact.

 

Christianity and Islam believe in actual body resurrection of the corpse. Don't you believe in that as well? When a corpse pops out of the grave and starts wlaking around it's called a zombie. Famous zombies were Lazarus and Jesus. Don't you want to be a zombie like them?

 

Jesus lost most of his sheep when he told they they had to be cannibals in order to gain eternal life. Joseph of Arimathea believed Jesus so he got his body after he was crucified and ate it. He ended up with indigestion and then he died.

 

Clearly Jesus was different from the other messianic prophets of that time including John the Baptist, Jesus drew many followers including members from the Jewish ruling class and none Jews in a short period of time and it was all because of his miracles.

If the Jewish and Roman rulers were not outsmarted or smarter than the supposed NT writers they would have succeeded in eliminating the Christ story and not have it blossom into becoming the empire's religion. Everything would have been well thought by the writers including famous phrases such as "My God My God why have you forsaken me"

If all these written after the fact, then the more this reveal how sophisticated, educated and well organized the writers were their sophistication is way beyond their time that they actually use an actual person Jesus of Nazareth, his parents Mary, Joseph, etc. and actual people that were his Apostles and rulers of that time to create a reality religion that was truly beyond comprehension that included the Resurrection. This philosophically thought alone clearly points that the writers did not just imagine everything but that they truly wrote what happened and that God indeed is real manifested through Jesus of Nazareth The Christ.

 

The very reason why you are stuck is because you have shut your eyes to all available informations including your refusal to watch the video
[video=youtube;nEkWz6DAAOU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEkWz6DAAOU[/video]

The proof God is real has been proven beyond faith alone but backed up with historical facts, records, artifacts, science and philosophy.
What is history is history there is nothing to assert or assume about it the problem is the unbelievers and deniers want to change history but they can't so they instead try to change the present and future by erasing history.

 

The Jews and Romans were not outsmarted by Jesus, Jesus was dead. I suppose one could claim that these folks were outsmarted by the people who wrote the stories about Jesus many decades later but, most of the people living at the time of Jesus were already dead when the stories of Jesus were written.

That someone's writing is philosophical is not proof of anything.

The main philosophical point about Jesus being let down by his faith in God (My God, My God, why have you forsaken me) is that humans should not have faith in God.

 

The Bible including none Biblical sources such as writings of Tacitus and Josephus including recent discoveries such as The Dead Sea Scrolls were used to confirm the historicity of Jesus Christ. Biblical text were written thousand of years ago by writers who wrote it based on their writing experience not based on today's writings standard. The errors or false text that you are attributing are based on what deniers wanted to interprete it based on their standard not based on when the original writers were writing it.

If all these written were after the fact, then the more this reveal how sophisticated, educated and well organized the writers were their sophistication is way beyond their time that they actually use an actual person Jesus of Nazareth, his parents Mary, Joseph, etc. and actual people that were his Apostles and rulers of that time to create a reality religion that was truly beyond comprehension that included the Resurrection. This philosophically thought alone clearly points that the writers did not just imagine everything but that they truly wrote what happened and that God indeed is real manifested through Jesus of Nazareth The Christ.