Justice Department says classified documents at Mar-a-Lago were likely 'concealed and removed'

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  1. JonK22

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    Of course not, it would refute your posit that Trumps a victim

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    BS, Trump has been treated with kid gloves. He did this to himself, period. BTW, don't know how many times you have been informed the POTUS can not auto declassify any document.
     
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    That led prosecutors to conclude that “efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation,” the government filing said.

    The F.B.I. “uncovered multiple sources of evidence indicating that the response to the May 11 grand jury subpoena was incomplete and that classified documents remained at the premises, notwithstanding the sworn certification made to the government on June 3,” the Justice Department filing said.

    In particular, the government developed evidence that a search limited to the storage room would not have uncovered all the classified documents at the premises.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/31/us/politics/trump-mar-a-lago-documents.html

    NO PAYWALL LINK
    https://archive.ph/iYqrz

    NOW COME ON, DO THEY REALLY EXPECT US TO BELIEVE THE DOJ AFTER ALL

    Let's look at the the real truth from Mr Truthie

    Trump claims he's the 'most honest human being, perhaps, that God ever created' during rally in North Carolina, video shows
    https://www.businessinsider.com/nor...ly-trump-most-honest-human-god-created-2022-4



     
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    INNER CITY DEVELOPMENT?

    How a Trump Tax Break to Help Poor Communities Became a Windfall for the Rich


    ...The initiative allows people to sell stocks or other investments and delay capital gains taxes for years — as long as they plow the proceeds into projects in federally certified opportunity zones. Any profits from those projects can avoid federal taxes altogether.

    “Opportunity zones, hottest thing going, providing massive new incentives for investment and job creation in distressed communities,” Mr. Trump declared at a recent rally in Cincinnati.

    Instead, billions of untaxed investment profits are beginning to pour into high-end apartment buildings and hotels, storage facilities that employ only a handful of workers, and student housing in bustling college towns, among other projects.


    Many of the projects that will enjoy special tax status were underway long before the opportunity-zone provision was enacted. Financial institutions are boasting about the tax savings that await those who invest in real estate in affluent neighborhoods.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/business/tax-opportunity-zones.html

    A Tax Break Is Born



    GRIFTERS GOTTA GRIFT RIGHT

    NO PAYWALL LINK

    https://archive.ph/DzN0S
     
  6. Nemesis

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    Yes. I don't base my opinions on any facts, but wait for Hillary/Obama/MSM/George Soros, etc. to tell me what to think. Good call!
     
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    And here is another perspective on the same rebuttal https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...sedgntp&cvid=630f62346e34454fa71399b210f77de1
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    Former Deputy Assistant AG Harry Litman summarized DOJ's arguments.

    "Facts (11 pages): Trump's assertion he cooperated is a joke; in fact he delayed access repeatedly," Litman wrote. "Law: (20 pages): first principles: these are not his records. He has no legal entitlement to challenge anything."

    "Once again, Trump hoist on his own petard," Litman wrote. "The DOJ 's justification for a fairly full new factual recitation is that Trump went running to another court that hadn't reviewed the affidavit and needs facts--which we get too--showing that claim of having been cooperative is bogus."......

    He [Attorney Ryan Goodman] noted Trump's push for a special master, "opened the door for DOJ to publicly correct the record in a response brief. Trump's legal team, and their client, again with self-inflicted wounds."

    Attorney and Vox writer Ian Millhiser agreed.

    "If I were Trump’s lawyers, I would not have filed a motion seeking a fairly minor form of relief, knowing full well that this motion would give the notoriously taciturn DOJ an opportunity to lay out much of its criminal case to a public that is still forming its opinion about it," Millhiser wrote"

    Trump's attorneys basically handed DOJ an opportunity to 'educate' another judge, in another courtroom, and that judge got a semester long class in evidence of obstruction as did we, and to virtually no Trump benefit, because of the long interval DOJ had to explore catigorize and photograph those files before the motion was even filed. I am sure this special master will eventually return some of the more personal notes etc, but its not going to alter this case.

    I know people have been complaining about Garland's speed, but the man is notoriously thorough, careful and methodical and he insists on the same traits being expressed among his subordinates. This is not a DOJ case that will be frought with sloppy or amateurish legal briefs nor will it be prone to tactical errors. Once Garland's wheels of justice start rolling, Trump's guys have to watch out that they are not flattened.
     
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    Did he steal those signs from the Biden Administration, too?

    BTW, WTF are those signs? He didn't negotiate "better trade deals", spur "Inner City Urban Development", create "new jobs" or generate a meaningful "tax plan".
     
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    You're supposed to be following Joe's cue cards and say the MAGA mob. Get with the programming!
     
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    I'm sure you were also crying about rich people getting a tax break even though everyone else who was employed got one, too. You people spend way too much time worrying about everybody else.
     
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    There is another alternative, you people don't spend enough time worrying about anyone else.
     
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    Our economy and unemployment under Trump, before the country was forced by the left to shut down, disagree with you. I'll take statistics over your words.
     
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    Ladies and gentlemen. The russia hoax didn't work so now its the "papers in a storage room" hoax.
    I'm loving this and really looking forward to what tomorrow brings.
    Maybe we will find out Trump is the head of the Illuminati or even worse, Trump managed to acquire all 5 infinity stones!
     
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    No.

    Everybody hates nosey neighbors. You wanna be one, go ahead, I'll stick to worrying about myself until there's an issue that affects me or my family.
     
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    Recognizing the root cause of a problem is a good first step towards recovery. There's hope!
     
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    Nahh.... he just stole classified (and unclassified) government property.... let's not go off the rails even more than MAGA already has...
     
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    I don't keep track of bs. But if you do, how many?
     
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    Did employers go out and "hire people" with their tax savings?
     
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    You bet they did..... more people to help them hide their tax savings....
     
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    Yea, whatever.
     
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    All the Democrats know Trump is the anti-Christ. Even the atheists among them (which are legion).
     
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    Good luck, my friend. Is there a 12
    That poor man. Why don't "they" leave him alone?!
     
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    Don't be ridiculous. He's not smart enough to be the Anti-Christ.
     
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    Since, The Organization does not discuss ongoing investigations. The only answer can be it’s fake news.
     
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    Hey the only way Trump can get away with his junk is if the republicans force the DoJ to stop the investigation.
     
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