Laws needed to stop pitbulls & such thugs owning them?

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  1. SaveUSA

    SaveUSA Banned

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    There are more and more pitbull owners who do harm to others as for killing, yes murdering people as well as other animals, because that is why they get these dogs!!!

    Such was my former neighbour who used pitbulls in fights in order to wager b ucks till one dies; but he did not give them proper care in order for them to fight another human or dog!!!

    You want to hear more?


    But not many places have laws to stop such thugs?
     
  2. Beevee

    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The UK does.

    I think it's more than 10 years ago that a law was passed that ensured that all male pit bull terriers were castrated, thereby wiping out the breed inside one generation.
     
  3. Roon

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    It's not the breed, its the owners. In the same way that it isn't the child...its the parents.
     
  4. dixiehunter

    dixiehunter Banned

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    Pitbulls are a real mans dog.

    Poodles, Chiwawa's and other lap dogs, are man freak dogs.​
     
  5. SaveUSA

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    Besides for terror, why own a pitbull?
     
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    SiliconMagician Banned

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    In many areas they are status symbols. You own one for the same reason you own a big gun, or a fancy sports car. Just because people will go "ooohh" and "ahhh"

    Cool factor.
     
  7. micfranklin

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    Because you can?

    To add on to this, it's not like hundreds of people die every year because of a pitbull bite, in fact it's not even that often.
     
  8. ian

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    Compensating for something else lacking normally. You will find that most people who own these types of dogs actually feel inferior in some way, although they wont admit it. Small penis etc.
     
  9. Independent with a voice

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20110602/od_yblog_upshot/pit-bulls-surprising-past-nanny-dogs

    Funny how much time and people can change an image. While I'm against making anybody incapable of owning anything, maybe something like this makes sense. Perhaps, like a gun permit, people should have a pitbull permit, just so no jackasses who don't know a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing about taking care of a dog don't turn them into killing machines. However, I still feel that would intrude on people's rights. Besides, they'd probably turn to another type of violent dog or find a new dog to turn violent. Dalmatians anyone?
     
  10. PatrickT

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    If not for stealing, why marry a liberal? My friends, a widow with three sons and two adopted sons, have a pit bull. They got here as a puppy because they believe, mistakenly in my opinion, that they would be unusually good at protecting the home.

    When communist thugs invade the home, in Mexico, the three sons and Charon defended their home with vigor.

    But, when people show up Charon is a teddy bear who loves to have her stomach scratched.

    I was waiting for an art exhibit to open and was visiting with a stranger with a dog. I scratched the dog's ears and said, "You know, when you meet a nice dog, you know you're met a nice person." I think that, and the reverse, are true. There's a dog in my neighborhood that bad and so is the family who own him.

    I don't agree but I do recognize the urge of some to control everything and everyone.
     
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    Besides for terror why own a pitbull.?....Hello!!!

    They are owned and used for terror. To protect ones home and property.

    Just like someone marries an ugly looking, foul mouth women or man....to scare-off and keep away unwanted jerks.

    BUT....If you train the pitbull to be timid and gentle....it's useless.
    Just the same as applies too the ugly foul spouse. ​
     
  12. saveUSeataliberal

    saveUSeataliberal New Member

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    the same arguement could be made for guns; to instill terror on a bad guy trying to break into my house, hurt my family, or any other illegal and destructive act. i'll keep both, thanks.
     
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    Bulls hit.... its both. I was a bad pet owner....I didn't properly train my dog, couldn't house break it, kept getting out of the yard, the difference was, my did didn't see every passing child or granny as his next lunch or as a threat. Plus he was small.

    Me and a small mutual /= a danger to society
    Me and a pitbull = danger

    Pitbulls have had all the domestication bred out of them. They are no different than wolves as far as their capacity to be domesticated
     
  14. DBM aka FDS

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    First I would like to address the whole Pitbull and thugs scenario. There are several dogs out there that are vicious and a Pitball is not one of them... I can abuse a rabbit for long enough to attack people! Anything can be driven to be horrible... I am in hopes that laws will get more strict when it comes to the pitbull and people who think ridiculous things about animals and using them for what they were not bred for....

    You know absolutely NOTHING about the breed. If you create a vicious dog out of a Pitbull you have ABUSED THAT DOG BEYOND BELIEF!!! That dog - the Pitbull - was not bred to be vicious! Was not bred to challenge or be fierce. I was bred to be the best family dog ever created!!! To turn a Pitbull vicious is a system of abuse after abuse after abuse! It's basically doing what you would have to do to Bambi to turn Bambi vicious. Lock up in cages, day and night torment... A horrible existence since it is not in the animals nature. German Shepherds different story... Doberman Pinschers different story.... Chow's different story... Sharpei's are also a different story! These dogs are and were bred for being vicious and thus you will get that. Most Pitbulls are gentle creatures and are one of the best dogs for kids and family!

    What is retarded is people who think like the above poster and have no clue what the dog is and just assume that it's a guard dog when it's not... Nor has it ever been bred for such... Just because people fight them don't mean they're vicious... They fight chickens for God's sake!!! It is irresponsible owner like people who think the dog is vicious, that has tarnished this sweet animals complete existence!! There are states that if a Pitbull is take, it is automatically put down because of ignorant people!!!

    It's sad...

    But, the truth.. Pitbull's were created to be gentle - in fact they are "therapy dogs"... What has happened to them over the years is horrible... and I truly think that people who do bad things to animals should be locked up for a LONG time!! And those who think like the poster above - need classes given to them by the local Humane Society...


    Because of statements like the above...​
     
  15. micfranklin

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    Let me stop you here, wolves may not be domesticated but they can be trained, socialized and tamed.
     
  16. JavisBeason

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    So can a tiger....but you don't keep them as pets (or shouldnt)
    Pits should be classified the same way as wolves....

    I'm all for breed specific extermination of pits because of the overall ignorance their owners continually show and the dangerous nature of this particular breed.

    Every pitbull attack is always met with pit owners turning on the one and the owner always either blaming the child who wasn't doing anything wrong or "killer has never done this before"
     
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    Yawn, yet another blame the breed thread. Two of my three dogs are pit bull breeds, I've raised them since they were pups. I trust them around livestock as much as I do my kid. Aggression is instilled into these animals, it's not a breed trait. If you say any different, you're pretty much talking out of your ass.

    There's really no such thing as a real pit bull by the way, there are many terriers who fall inside the pit bull family.
     
  18. Bluespade

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    "Reported levels of aggression in some cases are concerning, with rates of bites or bite attempts rising as high as 20 per cent toward strangers and 30 per cent toward unfamiliar dogs," he added.

    Most research into canine aggression up to now has focused on dog bites, but researchers said that data (pit bulls aren't at the top of that list either) is misleading. Most dog bites aren't reported, and because the bites of big dogs are more likely to get reported, they are generally viewed as more aggressive.

    The study, published this week in the journal Applied Animal Behaviour Science, involved researchers from the University of Pennsylvania questioning 6,000 dog owners. Breeds scoring low for aggression included Basset hounds, golden retrievers, labradors, Siberian huskies. The rottweiler, pit bull and Rhodesian ridgeback scored average or below average marks for hostility towards strangers. Greyhounds rated the most docile.
    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/features/mutts/blog/2008/07/the_most_aggressive_dog_breeds.html

    You don't know what you are talking about.
     
  19. Ethereal

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    There is no such thing as a bad dog, only a bad owner...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVXdF2AVQrE&feature=related"]YouTube - ‪Pitbulls are nice and i have proof‬‏[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZZ8XOI8nJQ"]YouTube - ‪A Nice Pitbull? Yeap‬‏[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCaHephF4R4&feature=related"]YouTube - ‪Pitbulls Playing Nice‬‏[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO8Rn5XTK_0&feature=related"]YouTube - ‪pitbull and baby‬‏[/ame]

    Properly socialized pitbulls are great dogs.
     
  20. Ethereal

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    You could make the same argument for cars. I know some people who probably shouldn't be driving; doesn't mean we should ban cars.
     
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    Sounds like you're projecting...:)
     
  22. JavisBeason

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    Good try but if I neglect my car, its not breaking out of the garage and running people over indiscriminantly
     
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    Still, you could drive irresponsibly and kill or maim someone. But that's no reason to ban cars.
     
  24. PatrickT

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    I definitely think we should deal with the thugs. The pitbull-owning thugs, the union thugs, the anarchist thugs, the adolescent gang thugs, all the thugs.

    Pitbulls are not an evil breed of dog.
     
  25. SaveUSA

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    Why let some dog owners who use their dog(s) as a weapon to kill someone?
     

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