Laws needed to stop pitbulls & such thugs owning them?

Thanks!

Pitbull fights till the death of one, is common?

 

Hey, a rabbit attacked President Jimmy Carter. Live with it.

I have friends who have pitbulls. Not a one is a thug. I love bigoted stereotyping.

 

It's the breed. Of all breeds Pit Bulls, Rottweilers and related breeds are the most aggressive territorially. A 20 year study by the CDC into fatal dog attacks on people showed that more than half involved Pit Bulls and rottweilers.

The breeds with a propensity to attack people should be eliminated.

 

I was attacked today by a Chihuahua. Kill them all. Am I correct in assuming that if an identifiable group of Americans commit a dispropotionate percentage of the homicides you would not be in favor of eliminating all of them?

The two things America is not short on is debt and laws. They have plenty of both and really don't need any more of either.

 

Bad analogy - people have rights. Animals, especially those that are prone to attack people, don't. They get the same treatment as any other dangerous animal or plant - they don't get to live with people. Up around here they shot a cougar and a bear in the past couple of weeks that wandered into the city. They're also poisoning Giant Hogweed which has very toxic sap.

So that's the deal with lower life forms - if you're a danger to people, might even kill sometimes, you can't live with us.

 

You act like this is as bad as racism, the hatred of dogs....

"People are bigots if they think lots are bad" gimme a break.... and one pet rabbit biting a president does not = killer dogs killing or attacking innocent peoplp.... sorry. Defend your thug friends and thug dogs when they don't eat a baby

 

Pitbulls are know to kill even their master; many such cases did anyone know?

 

Is that why liberals insist conservatives are a lower life-form?

 

It wasn't a pet rabbit. Killer dogs should be killed. Dogs should not be killed because they're a breed you don't like and you don't like their owners.

 

And, I have no thug friends or friends or know any thug dogs, you nitwit. You are a total authoritarian fool.

 

Pitbulls don't kill people, people kill people:

 

On the first place, there would be no such act if bad pitbulls and other vicious dogs were not there killing people or other good dogs/pets!!!

 

The dog you refer to as a Pitbull is by all accounts a loving, loyal great dog, of course due to its physical charateristics it makes it a choice dog for fighting, are we gonna ban and wipe out chickens since some people fight them also?

 

Chickens don't kill babies in cribs....grandmothers in their own yards, or school children walking to school

 

I have a pit bull, am I a thug? Am I compensating for a small penis?

I got the breed because I like them, and they are wonderful family dogs IF, and this is a BIG IF, you socialize and train them. You can't be ignorant. At least you have admitted you suck with training dogs, but not everyone is you.

I've grown up with pitts, never had any problems. Cousins were born into a house that had a pitt, NEVER had a problem for the 13 years that dog lived. They got another one, and never had a problem. Cousin has since grown up and moved out, and he has a pitt, never had a problem. I've never had a problem with mine either, but according to your mass generalization, he should of eaten the dogs he's pictured with...right?





Like I've said, good socialization and training with CONSISTENCY will reward you with a good dog. My niece still grabs his tail and drags him across the floor. He turns around and...wait for it..LICKS her! How dare he!

FYI, pitts are more dog aggressive than human aggressive.

It's the owner, not the breed.

Anti gun nuts use this same argument you are using with pitts.

 

A gun has never escaped his backyard and shot a kid walking to school

 

Child molestes and murderers have. Again, it's on the OWNER to train his dog. Should we ban cars because idiots speed through school zones and hit kids? Why dont you do some research on the temperament of a Pitt.

http://www.pitbullproject.ca/CanineBehavior.pdf

 

A car... if left alone....wont run anybody over on its own. A pitbull will

 

Not true. Ford had a recall forthe cruise control a while back, late nineties. Had a faulty solenoid, would overheat and could catch fire. Happened enough times for Ford to take notice and put a TSB out. Oh, also, it wouldnt catch fire while driving, it was while parked and shut off. So what if a kid was playin by it, the fire reached the fumes off the fuel tank and it explodes, killing the kid nearby. Should we ban cars now?

So then what's your explination for mine? He hasnt done it, never bit anyone, chased any kids or adults....according to you all pit bulls are bad.....so is my dog a bad dog? Should he be taken away from me?

 

How does that compare to a pitbull mauling a child walking to School? Why don't you stick to the tried and True "the kid must've done something to antagonize the dog" argument

 

Well, kids DO do things to dogs to antagonize them, but again that it the parents/owners fault for not educating their children on how to handle dogs. Not going to say thats the reason for them getting out and chasing kids/people, but again, THAT is on the owners.

As a kid, I was chased by Chows all the time walking home from school, and Healers have always seemed more aggressive to me than pitts, and that's my personal experience. Should we ban them too? What about chihuahuas? They bite more people than many dogs, but it's not noticed as much because they don't cause as much damage, should we ban them as well?

It's like this, if you throw ANY dog with an irresponsible owner, they all have the tendency to do wrong and bite, or be aggressive, ESPECIALLY if you chain them up and don't work with them or socialize them.

I've seen pit attacks on the news where they showed the dog, and it wasn't even a full pit, but since it "looked" like one to uneducated people, they scream pit, they are a scapegoat.

Back to the kids, and this is my PERSONAL experience. You see the black and white dog in one of my pics? She's not a pit, but resembles one. We were at the lake with family when she was younger, and my little nephews, never having been around dogs, started messing with her. They would throw stuff at her head, get down in her face and slap her around, take her lease and hit her with it etc. When I saw this, I told them to stop, they didn't. I went to my Aunt and told her, and she finally made them stop, but the damage was done.

It took me YEARS to break her of a bad habit that those kids teasing her, caused. Keep in mind, this was while we were still in the beginning stages of socializing her, and she wasn't considered a "puppy" but wasn't full grown and developed yet.

Again, it is all on the owners. When my pit was a puppy, I did many things to him that a little kid would do. I would pull on his tail, pull on his ears, blow in his face, stick my hands in his mouth, I would do all this WHILE he was eating or chewing on a bone. The few times he showed aggression, I'd jump on it and correct it.

Pitts can be wonderful dogs, you just seem to have a bad taste in your mouth and have either had bad experiences, or jumped on the band wagon and believe everything you hear.

http://oakhillgazette.com/pit-bulls-as-therapy-dogs-p2967-73.htm

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/articles/sarpits.html

http://daviswiki.org/Pit_Bulls

http://www.pbrc.net/poppysplace/heroicpitbulls.html

http://www.pbrc.net/breedinfo.html

http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/resources/ca/dog-bites/

http://www.pitbulltraininghandbook.com/

http://www.vitaminsforpitbulls.com/how_to_train_a_puppy.html

I did some work for you, educate yourself.

I also see you as a hypocrite, you get tired of people playing the race card, but all fine with playing the "pits are bad dogs lets ban them" card.

Tell me, what research have you done on OTHER breads?

 

And there it is...."the kid is guuilty"

Ok, here is where I can tell if you are a hypocritical or not. Do dogs have souls and free will and emotion? Yes or no.

 

Here is a link worth checking out if you actually care to educate yourself.

http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/

Here is a description on how they base their tests.

http://atts.org/tt-test-description/

American Pitt Bull Terriers had a passing rate of 86.4%, out of 804 dogs tested.


American Pit Bull Terrier - 86.4%

Here is a list of common family dogs it scored better than:

American Bulldog - 85.4%
Australian Cattle Dog - 79.1%
Australian Shepherd - 81.6%
Basset Hound - 85.7%
Beagle - 80.6%
Boston Terrier - 84.8%
Border Collie - 81.2%
Boxer - 83.7%
Chihuahua - 71.1%
Chinese Crested - 75.8%
Chinese Shar-Pei - 70.6%
Chow Chow - 71.4%
Cocker Spaniel - 81.9%
Collie - 79.9%
Dalmatian - 82.4%
German Pinscher - 85.0%
German Shepherd Dog - 84.4%
Golden Retriever - 84.9%
Great Dane - 79.9%
Greyhound - 81.8%
Jack Russell Terrier - 84.1%
Miniature Pinscher - 81.5%
Miniature Poodle - 77.9%
Miniature Schnauzer - 78.6%
Old English Sheepdog - 76.6%
Rottweiler - 83.7%
Saint Bernard - 83.7%
Shih Tzu - 78.0%
Toy Fox Terrier - 77.8%
Toy Poodle - 82.7%
Weimaraner - 80.5%
Yorkshire Terrier - 82.5%

There were 218 breeds tested, out of that, it scored higher than 154 of those breeds, which means it scored higher than 70% of dogs tested. And I DIDNT count the dogs on the list that scored 0% because they tested 0 dogs in that breed.

 

Yes, they do have free will and souls, but that free will is an inherit trait. You learn about the breed and you work with the dog.

And I never said the KID is guilty, I said

Learn to read.

Speaking of reading, I posted some links for you, did you look at them, or just ignore the facts.

Same goes for the ATTS Breed Statistics I posted.

Also-


When you have a kid in elementary school, and he is acting out and being a hoodlum, who's fault is it?

The parents

Same goes for a dog.

Just because your ignorant, doesn't mean I shouldn't be aloud to keep my dog. And I can promise you this, if you ever MET my dog, you most likely would change your mind, a little at least.

 

the problem is, walking down a road isn't antagonizing dogs. but to dogs, it is. Now, I realize little ankle biters are just as, or more so, agressive. The difference is that little poodle won't sever my artery in my throat like a pitbull can

It's like getting shot by a b-b gun or a glock. Both are guns, and probably more people have been shot by a bb gun than a glock, but which one is more dangerous?

Now, to get to the free will thing. YOu can't compare a car with a free will dog who can just think "he looked at me funny" or "I think that mailman is an intruder" Mailmen don't carry car-mace, they carry dog mace because it's a threat they have to deal with... not a fireprone Ford Taurus.

FACT!!!!


just a little background on me.....


I was attacked by a pitbull when I was 5. I must have "antagonized" it or something what with playing with my best friend in the front yard while Spike was in the back yard. All I heard was "SPIKE IS OUT!!!" , I turned and he was lunging at me....

My Irish setter got to me right as Spike did. Brutus saved my butt that day because Spike was aiming for jugular. Thing was.... the friend had 2 other pitbulls and the other 2 weren't the same temperment. So your "owner theory" is out the door in my book.

Situation 2. My grandmother had a pitbull. I really must have antagonized this dog inside her house as I tried to pet it and it bit the SHIZNIT out of my hand. Of course, my uncle to this day, and my grandmother to her dieing day, swore I "looked at it wrong" My bad... Didn't realize there was a rulebook to dangerous breeds that my parents were supposed to teach me. I guess they were too busy teaching morals and work ethic and (*)(*)(*)(*) them for neglecting how to treat other people's dogs so they don't have to be responsible when they attack.


Now.... to follow up on Spike.... I was 6 and don't know "exactly" what happened..... but I know within the week, Spike was mysteriously dead. My dad, STILL won't tell me what happened and I'm 35 now. He just plays it off as "I don't remember"

Seems Spike got a treat of anti-freeze in his water bowl for attacking me. But I'm not 100% on that. I just know my dad and know what I would do if it were my child that got attacked like I had got attacked.