Ohio veteran, 37, who went viral for refusing to wear a mask, died of COVID-19

Yeah that Russia thing worked out well for you.

 

So there is no reason to let it terrorize people.

 

You're going to tell people how to react to a pandemic? Good luck with that.

If you get your way, there will be no stopping the virus. It will continue spreading, people will pull back on spending, and we will have a depression if we limit relief spending as Republicans plan to do.

You can make people desperate enough to take unsafe jobs, but you can't make them go to the mall after work.

 

I'm not a Democrat. Nice try.

 

"Terrorize people?" Who is doing that?

 

This reaction is mandated by the government, not a grass roots demand. We are going to have a depression or the most serious recession in our experience if we continue the status quo

 

Well golly gee, who knows?

 

You missed your calling.

 

What is your plan to get the new case count down? We need to fix this...

They didn't kill a lot of people in Canada to get the case count down. It took them about two months (see the chart above).

So, the one-third isolate themselves and STOP SPENDING MONEY.

You just described one-third of the population.

Go to your bar, club, restaurant, and gym. Spread COVID-19 around. After you finish wrecking the economy--and you will if you get your way--you can puzzle over why you didn't listen to people who tried to warn you.

Why don't we fix this...



... so we can be more like Canada and Germany?

Your idea was to declare martial law. How will this fix the problem?

 

The number of cases is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is how many die from it.

Gee I wonder why a country larger than the US with the population of CA had fewer deaths. There's a hard one to figure out.

No, I described about 1/7th of the population. The other 6/7's should get back to work.

Seeing as how I'm about 4 times more likely to be murdered even if I catch Covid, I think I'll do just that.

You sit in your basement counting your TP and I'll keep going out in the sun with the top off the jeep camping and hitting the gym.

Let's see which of us is better equipped to deal with an illness.

 

~ The Great Obama told us to "Sneeze in your sleeve - not in your hands." That was his solution to the H1N1 "pandemic" . Reminds me of the candy commercial. `

 

With appropriate fiscal policies that include generous unemployment benefits to tide people over until we get a cure, effective treatments, and/or a vaccine. We could carry everyone in trouble because of COVID-19 for a year. If we don't have a cure or effective treatment or a vaccine, we can probably start thinking about how we restructure the economy. Right now, if we in essence put chunks of our economy in mothballs, we have chance at getting back to what we had.

 

I don't think that's all that counts. In fact, I think people look to the number of new cases to assess their chance of getting COVID-19.

If you multiply the numbers for Canada by nine, you have a fair comparison.

It's not about me--or you. It's about the impact of how we're reacting to the virus. Why can't you figure out we've lost a big chunk of consumer demand that's a result of people not wishing to buy a product or service even if it's available. Consumer spending drops when COVID-19 is widespread.

Some businesses need to close for now--bars, dance clubs, dining inside restaurants, gyms. Maybe we can keep schools at least partly open.

 

Of course that's all that counts.

If you caught Covid and you didn't even know it, it's about as important as tracking the number of cases of poison ivy.

Oh you think a straight multiplication of population solves the equation. Here's a hint:

.https://canoe.com/news/national/more-than-90-of-canadian-deaths-from-covid-19-are-those-over-age-60

Here's another:



Consumer spending has dropped?

Nobody told Amazon.

https://myhughesnet.hughesnet.com/p...t brought in during the forth-quarter of 2019.

Amazon's Q2 2020 was its biggest online sales quarter ever due to the coronavirus pandemic. Amazon racked up $45.8 billion in global online store net sales in the second quarter of 2020. Amazon exceeded the $45.7 billion it brought in during the forth-quarter of 2019.

 

The economy is people, not some government conspiracy to enslave poor people. You don't mothball people and the businesses they depend on, they die.

 

They DIE...from the virus

 

They shoulda wore a mask.

 

Oh, please.

"Our national Recovery Tracker points to a premature plateauing of the recovery. The tracker only rose 0.3ppts to 76.5 in the week ended July 3, supported by a surge in business applications and firming financial conditions. A plunging health index, the first decline in the demand tracker, and a second decline in the employment component point to significant downside risks.

An unexpected 43% jump in business applications sparked a 9.4ppts increase in the production tracker. While encouraging, this starkly contrasts with a concerning decline in the number of small businesses open.

While financial conditions remained loose despite a deteriorating health situation, the employment pullback and much more reserved demand growth are worrisome. Consumers are proving less mobile and more cautious with outlays on retail, restaurants, and other face-to-face services.

The State Recovery Trackers confirm that the rebound lost momentum in late June, with 15 states recording slower weekly rises and 14 more reporting outright weekly drops.

With coronavirus cases growing in 39 of the 50 states – accounting for nearly 90% of national GDP – virus fear and reimposed social distancing measures in many states raise the risk of a renewed slump in activity.

While it would be premature to call for a double-dip recession, this recovery is clearly at risk from a mishandled health situation. Policymakers across the country have an active role to play in containing the virus and ensuring the nation avoids looming fiscal cliffs from the expiry of unemployment benefits, PPP funds running low, and state and local budgets being cut to the bone."​

http://blog.oxfordeconomics.com/coronavirus/recovery-tracker-plateaus-in-early-july

 

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You still don't get it. Consumer demand drops if the virus isn't under control, and it won't be if some types of business operate as usual. We can either help these businesses survive if consumers shun them (airlines, restaurants), or can't allow them to operate (dance clubs), or we can let them go broke.

You're telling them to sink or swim. It's destructive of small business. I talking about saving them for when we might get a vaccine, and you're destroying them.

 

Business is always a sink or swim proposition but you are tying an anchor around their necks leaving sink the only thing they can do. The government can't artificially fund it's only source of income which is the business that is not being allowed today. You say consumers won't come out and shop so why is it necessary to order business to remain closed?

 

Yea...based on market forces...not on whether people are afraid frequent them because of fear of getting sick and dying.

Business can NOT recover unless we get this thing under control

 

If nobody will go our then why the hell is it necessary to regulate who can open and who can't? That is the dumbest argument for a lockdown I have heard so far.

 

That is the claim, but as many whistleblowers have pointed out, many who have died from comorbidities but WITH the virus present have been recorded as dying from the virus.

That is the necessary step to deliver the massive fraud in reporting statistics which is the foundation of the Fear Factor.

 

Thank you QAnon


One hundred and seventy thousand have died from this horror. And that number goes up every day as testing decreases

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