Ok Ladies, it is getting weird!

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    NO, she doesn't want to be considered the same as a man because she is in the military and walks into a store. WHY would she?

    She is a PERSON in the military and it's your problem if you have to stereotype and pigeonhole every one on earth due to their gender.

    WHY are you ASSuming all this crap about a woman in the military? Do they scare you?
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Why is that important? This is a place to debate not pick up dates...
     
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    One of the ideas of feminism is for women to NOT be told what to do or how to act by a man...just act like a regular old HUMAN just like men can....
     
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    Does that make you eel better about yourself?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh c'mon baby don't be like that.

    Thanks. Was having trouble finding one today.
     
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    What is so sad is your mother taught you a poor lesson. A good lesson would be to hold the door for the person behind you. Women aren’t helpless...we can open our own doors and also hold the door for the man behind us.
     
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    Holding the door is for you... makes a man feel more manly. The little damsel needs a big strong man to hold the door for her. Why is it wrong for you to hold doors for men? The only door i want help with is the door to the board room
     
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    Excellent response.......
     
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    Wow....I bet you don’t see anything sexist. No woman wants to be the same as a man. We just want to be treated equally
     
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    If you were tolerant and sensitive, you would know whether she would appreciate the door being held for her, by simply reading her mind. If you cant read minds, you're a bigot.

    In all seriousness, I hold the door for everyone within a certain distance behind me (a bit longer for old or disabled people). Not once has anyone ever voiced an opinion about whether I should or should not have held the door for them.
    ...but that could just be because Im scary to ppl who dont know me (I dont know why, but everyone says so after they get to know me).
     
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    Why is etiquette gender specific? Men do...women wait....It’s teaching men to take control and women to wait.
     
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    Good manners dictate that we hold a door for a man or woman.
     
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    So you are one of those bicivil liberals. :D

    I always hold the door for people; men, women, bums, even Republicans.

    I've met or dated 118 women over the last 2.5 years and not one has been insulted because I was being courteous. In fact, they like being treated well. I can't even guess now at how many, but women I've met agree: One reason the world of sugar babies has exploded is that older men are more respectful and treat them better. They like old school. In a strange way, sugar relationships are often more traditional than many marriages.

    I often get a kick out of the look I get when I open the car door for them and wait until they get in, before closing it. Obviously this is new to them [at least in some cases].
     
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    I remember my old dating days when I would have to sit in the car possibly why my date ran around to open the door for me. It felt so awkward. I also even remember my mother being annoyed at me because I beat him in bowling three games. She told me I should never beat the boy in the game. When older man call me sweetie or honey I let it go because it is usually part of their culture but when young men do that I show annoyance.
     
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    I don't open the door when they get out. That is too awkward and obvious. But it's easy to open the door for them when getting back in.

    One thing I have learned about romancing a woman: Subtlety is key. If it's too obvious, it doesn't work. It has to flow naturally.

    The hard part for me is that I wear my heart on my sleeve and I'm a hopeless romantic. I had to learn to find a balance and to bite my tongue. The funny part is, women don't seem to have any concept of what romance is like for a man. I have seen many examples now of men, including me, who are being 100% sincere, and the women don't believe it. They think it's contrived or some pickup line. In some ways, many men are far more romantic than many women. That's why they don't take it seriously. It is as if women can't imagine that men can feel so deeply. They don't feel the same feelings. It is different for women.
     
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    Yes, many times younger women are easier to impress.....and women can be as sexist as men so no surprise there...

    These are the same women who have been taught to hate feminism but are happy to suck up everything feminism has obtained for them
     
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    I bet these anti-feminists go to the Gentleman's Clubs.

    Those who do (imo) if they don't hate women, they certainly despise them and use them.
     
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    All you have to do is act like you are with another HUMAN BEING, not a "thing" that needs special treatment..
     
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    I'm not clear what that means. Were you raised to respect women but not men? Was it assumed that you'd respect men but you had to be specifically told to respect women too? Is your "respect" for women actually different to your "respect" for men? If not, why not?

    If you wouldn't have held the door for a man (military or not), wouldn't that suggest a lack of respect for men? Or, if not, is holding doors for a woman when you wouldn't for a man less a matter of respect and more one of condescension? You've been taught that women are somehow incapable of opening a door on their own. Maybe your confusion when faced with a military woman is that it puts in to stark relief how flawed that presumption of incapability is.

    Slamming doors in people's faces? Just use some basic common sense. If a person is close enough for it to be useful, hold the door for them. It shouldn't matter whether they're male, female, old, young or whatever. There might be practical differences of course; people carrying lots of bags, waking with a stick, pushing a parm etc. but that's entirely independent of anything else.
     
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    Young men treat them like crap. That's the number one reason I am given. That's one reason why many are looking to older men. A lot of it has to do with maturity. Then there is the fact that some significant percentage of women, perhaps 30%, are fine with older men. Plenty of daddy complexes out there too! But even that doesn't detract from the ability to enjoy each other. We're all what we are for a reason. And we're all screwed up in one way or another.

    Women are generally far more sexist that men; especially older women. The majority of young women I've met see things differently. That's why they are sugar babies. This really doesn't work if the woman doesn't truly enjoy being with men. That is even true with escorts. And they have a sex drive more like a man. They are able to separate the emotional side from the physical, and enjoy good or great sex for the sake of good or great sex.

    I have met many young women who seem to be fair minded. They are far more empowered than previous generations. They have been raised with strong female role models who are just as strong or smart or able as men. But my gosh, I can have the most wonderful, honest, open, explicit, and rewarding discussions with young women - discussions I never could have had with my wife. These women are generally very accepting; and often loving and very caring towards men. It is such a joy to be completely honest and open with a woman about anything.

    I have met a good number of young women who resent their mother's feminism as much as I do. It went too far and disrespects men. The women can end up as perpetual victims who are impossible to make happy. And the daughters see that.
     
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    Bull.
     
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    I've seen women completely taken by the efforts to which I go for my dates - both my dates and women who know about my dates. And I've been told many times how much it means to them.

    I completely knock myself out for almost every date. And it has yielded rewards beyond my wildest imagination.
     
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    I dunno. I would ask the women who 99% of the time dont hold the door for me... if I cared. Men do about 75% of the time.
     
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    The only time most women find door holding 'offensive' is if it's done with even the remotest suggestion of smarminess, by a male well outside of one's age or looks range. When the male is doing it to obtain interactions with females either much younger or well outside his league, it's grotesque.

    However, if an attractive male within your own age range does it, it's quite pleasing :D
     
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    Then these YOUNG daughters that you prefer (for purely mental reasons :roll:) are only seeing a distortion of feminism. Feminism does not advocate disrespecting men.
     
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