Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine proves 90% effective in latest trials

I didn't say you supported them. I just find it comical for you to pretend like Trump has been uniquely evil or harmful.

So you have nothing to back up your false assertion. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

Once more, fake news nonsense. I'm perfectly willing to examine evidence. It's just that the looney conspiracy nutters have no reliable evidence.

 

When it comes to mistreating refugees and executive overreach, yes, he has been.

I can clear up the claim if you are still going to pretend to not understand it.

 

Right.

So when Bush II lies the country into a war that causes a million Iraqis to die - to say nothing of the trillions of dollars wasted or the tens of thousands of brave, young Americans who were wounded or killed - that doesn't warrant special consideration in your estimation.

But when Trump engages in some overzealous border enforcement that harms a few thousand people, suddenly you're outraged and appalled.

I can see you have your priorities all worked out.

You can clear it up by producing a single post where I cheered for executive overreach, as you implied earlier.

Of course, you cannot produce one, because it's never happened.

 

No reliable evidence... except Sweden, which had no lockdowns and no mask mandate.

And Japan, which had no lockdown.

And all the Scandinavian countries, who do not mandate or wear masks.

And a study from The Lancet which found no association between lockdowns and lower mortality rates.

And Fauci himself saying there is no reason to go around wearing a mask.

And on and on and on.

You just ignore it or dismiss it or attempt to rationalize it somehow. No amount of evidence would ever convince you that you're wrong.

 

Here is a list of scientists who agree with me:

Link >>> https://gbdeclaration.org/

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

Dr. Alexander Walker, principal at World Health Information Science Consultants, former Chair of Epidemiology, Harvard TH Chan School of Public Health, USA

Dr. Andrius Kavaliunas, epidemiologist and assistant professor at Karolinska Institute, Sweden

Dr. Angus Dalgleish, oncologist, infectious disease expert and professor, St. George’s Hospital Medical School, University of London, England

Dr. Anthony J Brookes, professor of genetics, University of Leicester, England

Dr. Annie Janvier, professor of pediatrics and clinical ethics, Université de Montréal and Sainte-Justine University Medical Centre, Canada

Dr. Ariel Munitz, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel

Dr. Boris Kotchoubey, Institute for Medical Psychology, University of Tübingen, Germany

Dr. Cody Meissner, professor of pediatrics, expert on vaccine development, efficacy, and safety. Tufts University School of Medicine, USA

Dr. David Katz, physician and president, True Health Initiative, and founder of the Yale University Prevention Research Center, USA

Dr. David Livermore, microbiologist, infectious disease epidemiologist and professor, University of East Anglia, England

Dr. Eitan Friedman, professor of medicine, Tel-Aviv University, Israel

Dr. Ellen Townsend, professor of psychology, head of the Self-Harm Research Group, University of Nottingham, England

Dr. Eyal Shahar, physician, epidemiologist and professor (emeritus) of public health, University of Arizona, USA

Dr. Florian Limbourg, physician and hypertension researcher, professor at Hannover Medical School, Germany

Dr. Gabriela Gomes, mathematician studying infectious disease epidemiology, professor, University of Strathclyde, Scotland

Dr. Gerhard Krönke, physician and professor of translational immunology, University of Erlangen-Nuremberg, Germany

Dr. Gesine Weckmann, professor of health education and prevention, Europäische Fachhochschule, Rostock, Germany

Dr. Günter Kampf, associate professor, Institute for Hygiene and Environmental Medicine, Greifswald University, Germany

Dr. Helen Colhoun, professor of medical informatics and epidemiology, and public health physician, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

Dr. Jonas Ludvigsson, pediatrician, epidemiologist and professor at Karolinska Institute and senior physician at Örebro University Hospital, Sweden

Dr. Karol Sikora, physician, oncologist, and professor of medicine at the University of Buckingham, England

Dr. Laura Lazzeroni, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences and of biomedical data science, Stanford University Medical School, USA

Dr. Lisa White, professor of modelling and epidemiology, Oxford University, England

Dr. Mario Recker, malaria researcher and associate professor, University of Exeter, England

Dr. Matthew Ratcliffe, professor of philosophy, specializing in philosophy of mental health, University of York, England

Dr. Matthew Strauss, critical care physician and assistant professor of medicine, Queen’s University, Canada

Dr. Michael Jackson, research fellow, School of Biological Sciences, University of Canterbury, New Zealand

Dr. Michael Levitt, biophysicist and professor of structural biology, Stanford University, USA. Recipient of the 2013 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.

Dr. Mike Hulme, professor of human geography, University of Cambridge, England

Dr. Motti Gerlic, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel

Dr. Partha P. Majumder, professor and founder of the National Institute of Biomedical Genomics, Kalyani, India

Dr. Paul McKeigue, physician, disease modeler and professor of epidemiology and public health, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

Dr. Rajiv Bhatia, physician, epidemiologist and public policy expert at the Veterans Administration, USA

Dr. Rodney Sturdivant, infectious disease scientist and associate professor of biostatistics, Baylor University, USA

Dr. Salmaan Keshavjee, professor of Global Health and Social Medicine at Harvard Medical School, USA

Dr. Simon Thornley, epidemiologist and biostatistician, University of Auckland, New Zealand

Dr. Simon Wood, biostatistician and professor, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

Dr. Stephen Bremner,professor of medical statistics, University of Sussex, England

Dr. Sylvia Fogel, autism provider and psychiatrist at Massachusetts General Hospital and instructor at Harvard Medical School, USA

Dr. Udi Qimron, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel

Dr. Ulrike Kämmerer, professor and expert in virology, immunology and cell biology, University of Würzburg, Germany

Dr. Uri Gavish, biomedical consultant, Israel

Dr. Yaz Gulnur Muradoglu, professor of finance, director of the Behavioural Finance Working Group, Queen Mary University of London, England

They must all be fringe conspiracy theorists too.

 

Will Trump take credit?

 

Maintaining those temperatures is not a problem in specially designed buildings. Distribution is the problem. Pfizer's vaccine shelf life is only around 24 hours if stored in a refrigerator or standard freezer. This drug will not be suitable for mass rapid inoculation or delivery to remote areas. Moderna are claiming that their mRNA vaccine can remain stable in standard freezers and will release their study results soon.

 

The crap headed Biden's way will make you scream conspiracy a lot more times.Biden is a POS so do not think he will have it easy.

 

Oh Biden says he is not close to ready for any vaccine to be used. Says a lot more rigorous testing must come first. Biden can delay vaccines for perhaps 2 full years more.

 

Vaccines should always have rigorous testing. We can't just pump out one prematurely because we think it might look good for Trump.

 

By crap you mean the mess that Biden will have to sort out when he takes over

 

24 hours is more than enough time to transport the vaccine between specialized storage facilities.

 

yardmeat: I don't ignore evidence!

*gets confronted with evidence, proceeds to ignore it*

 

The same mess that every other country in the world is experiencing?

I wonder how Trump managed to cause people in Belgium and France and Spain and Italy to die as well.

 

What evidence have I ignored? Stop making **** up.

 

POS Biden carries crap like flies legs carry crap.

 

Posts 30 and 31 in this very thread.

You simply ignored them and the evidence they contained, like you always do when I refute your nonsense.

 

Nobody pumps them out prematurely. Biden will delay the vaccine, with your loud approval.

 

More evidence that COVID hysterics will ignore.

Sweden, with no lockdowns and no masks, versus Belgium, with harsh lockdowns and nearly universal masking:



Belgium's strategy of lockdowns and masks is a demonstrable and complete failure.

 

Trump has pushed for them to come out prematurely. No, there is no evidence that Biden will magically "delay" any vaccine. But Trump and his followers will continue pushing this mindless nonsense, with your loud approval.

 

Arh, someone is really angry. Don't worry, when Trump goes to court over all this fraud, you can watch him lose again.

 

Where are these specialized storage facilities at -70 C (-98F)?

 

Sweden is starting to spike, and doesn't want to do that again.

 

If it comes to that, we're going to have to build them. It would be a logistical nightmare.