Pfizer vaccine is junk nor tested for safety otherwise

Below is Pfizer's one statement on their own website - but first this:

The average time to develop a vaccine - if ever - is ten years. The fastest ever was for mumps - 4 years. But now, in less than 1 year, there are at least half a dozen claimed for covid-19. The first test of the first vaccine was not until March of this year - and that is a 2 stage vaccine.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/experimental-coronavirus-vaccine-safe-produces-immune-response#:~:text=Scientists began Phase 1 trials,in mid-March.

Is there a way to know if a vaccine is long term safe when the longest any has been tested is 9 months?

Try to find specifics about any of these vaccines? The methodology? This is all Pfizer will reveal:

"

• We expanded our initial, planned enrollment in the study from 30,000 people to approximately 44,000 people. This allowed us to include additional populations, including people as young as 12 years old and people with chronic, stable HIV (human immunodeficiency virus), HCV (Hepatitis C virus), or HBV (Hepatitis B virus) infections. We believe that doing so enabled more individuals who are at risk of COVID-19 disease to have the opportunity to participate in the study. As with the vaccine candidates we test in adult populations, we are following a careful, stepwise approach as we move down to younger age groups.
• To ensure the study provides substantial data, participants in the study must fit certain standards, called “inclusion criteria.” Inclusion criteria for this study are:
  • Healthy males or females over the age of 12
  • Willing and able to comply with all scheduled visits, laboratory tests, lifestyle restrictions and other study procedures
  • In the judgment of the investigator, higher than average risk for COVID-19 infection (including, but not limited to, use of mass transportation, relevant demographics, and employment as frontline essential workers)
• The earlier we can understand the safety and efficacy of our vaccine candidate in our current study population, the sooner we can work with the FDA and other regulatory authorities to potentially study the vaccine candidate in other populations, including pregnant women.
• https://www.pfizer.com/science/coronavirus

44,000, including children as young as 12 - and that 44,000 includes those given a placebo (same link). However, in the press release they said as young as 16.
Less than 22,000 were given the vaccine (given TWICE) - 21 days apart - not once.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-r...iontech-announce-publication-results-landmark

The medium age was 52 and only 42% older than 55. So of the 22,000 given the vaccination, only 10,000 were age 55 or older deducting the placebo group. 5.4% contracted covid-19. There is NO mention of any elderly participants - not one. Curiously, of the 22,000 given the placebo and exposed to covid-19, only 169 contracted covid-19. So doing NOTHING? Over 99% were immune from covid-19! 9 who took TWO doses of the vaccine contracted covid-19 with the same exposure.

Of the 44,000, the difference for those exposed to covid-19 - the ONLY difference in how many got infected of the 22,000 that did not receive the vaccination was 160. With - or without - the vaccination, when exposed to covid-19 less than 1% were infected. Again, no mention of even 1 elderly person in the study.

What is not in the study? ANY mention of ANY testing of ANY possible adverse effects whatsoever, none, zero. Again, same link from Pfizer's own website.

 

Summary:
The difference in infection rate between having the vaccine injected into your body twice and not having the vaccine is less than 0.5% of being infected.Over 99% who took the sugar pill placebo also were immune.
The test involved less than 10,000 people over age 55. No elderly were tested - or at least mentioned.
Of the 44,000 exposed to covid-19, not one died - including the 22,000 who got the placebo.
There was no testing to see if there were any short term or long term negative effects whatsoever - literally NONE. Sterility? Nerve damage? Immune system damage? Heart damage? Liver damage? NOTHING

THE REASON VACCINES TAKE SO MANY YEARS TO APPROVE IS BECAUSE IT TAKES YEARS TO KNOW OF ANY ADVERSE AND HEALTH DESTROYING LONG TERM EFFECTS. They decided potential long term harms, even if lethal, are completely irrelevant.

Yet that vaccine, if used twice will save us? If you understand Pfizer's own words, their vaccine is nothing but a placebo to over 99% of people - literally nothing. And you just have to trust it is otherwise safe because there was no time to test that.

Only a fool would allow this injected into their body - twice - particularly teens and young adults that have almost a zero mortality rate. HOW STUPID AND GULLIBLE ARE YOU?!

Again, all I posted is from Pfizer's own website.

 

Oh yes, there is one thing Pfizer proved - this is a 100% hoax. They deliberately exposed 22,000 people who only were given a placebo of no medical value to deliberately try to infect them - and far less than 1% became infected. They literally could not infect people even 99% of the control group despite deliberately trying - and first they tested to assure none had already had covid-19.

Other comments: Pfizer does not divulge what they are using to incubate the vaccine in allow making tens or hundreds of millions of doses - nothing 2 are required. Nor do they divulge the sterilizing agent, which in the past included mercury. Literally, if you read their own study:
1. They proved covid-19 is a hoax. Almost everyone - over 99% - are naturally immune. The infection counts are massive lies.
2.The vaccine is worthless for over 99% of people.
3. No indication of any value of the vaccine to the elderly whatsoever - which is who is claimed to be most at risk.
4. There was no testing if the vaccine is safe - short or long term.

 

Hmm, let’s see trust the word of an anonymous someone with no knowledge of how long the development of a vaccine has been in the pipeline for this type of virus, no idea of the current state of the technology, for instance CRISPR, for decoding a particular virus’s vulnerability, or how to evaluate the range of possible antiviral agents, or the testing requirements of the FDA to get approval to release a vaccine to the public, or trust the FDA’s experience with certification and Pfizer’s willingness to release the vaccine with the potential that if it massively fails it will basically destroy Pfizer?
Do you suppose the annual variations of the flu vaccines, or long use of drugs like penicillin don’t have people suffering side effects and even fatal reactions?
Hmmm your word or get the vaccine? I will take the chances with the vaccine even knowing the risks, but figuring the risk is worth the life’s that might be saved in the long run. Then too, the process used by Pfizer, has been in the pipeline since SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV) emerged in November 2002. In fact, if you follow the science of vaccine development in the science community in places like Phys.org, or https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/you will see the science being reported.
As for the virus being a Proven Hoax... pure BS. I had it...was hospitalized 6 weeks and developed both pneumonia and a pleural effusion. A proven hoax, proven BS.
You can do what you like, I will have none of your snake oil.

 

The virus and the vaccine are both manmade. Neither has been around long enough to know the long term effects, and both are guaranteed to injure and kill more than 0 people.

I choose to get neither. Here's hoping I don't get both against my will.

 

Be ready to never dine in a restaurant ever again.

 

I can live with that.

...but can the restaurants?

 

Well, not if everyone is like you. Restaurants would very quickly change their policy and not require people to be vaccinated.

 

You know... that's called... SCEINTIFIC PROGRESS!

The freaking mumps vaccine was made in the 1950's.
That's 70 years ago.... in the day and age where they didn't have personal computers.


This feels like talking to a caveman complaining it's hard to cook when the weather is damp.
While I just nuke it in a microwave to still hear the caveman say... na-ah.. that aint cooked at all.

 

There is no way to know even after testing for 2, 4 or 10 years. As with lots of things, there will be a series of educated estimates and predictions which will influence decisions made on a risk/reward basis for if, when and how the vaccine is used. This isn't fundamentally different to any new medial treatment, or indeed any new technology at all. You could make a reasonable argument about how that balance has been assessed in this case but you can't pretend that wasn't the core process followed.

That isn't all they reveal, it's just what they've put in a press release for general consumption. There are more technical details for those managing and administering the vaccine (e.g. https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...fessionals-on-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine) and full details will have been given to the regulatory authorities who ultimately made the decisions on using the vaccines (and will have done on testing it on people in the first place).

That is mentioned in that same link. Did you not read it all or did you assume nobody else would?

They didn't deliberately try to infect anyone. There wasn't a challenge study (in fact there are argument that there should have been). The subjects just went about their daily lives as normal and so had the same general risk of infection as anyone else. Regardless, there was a statistically significant difference between the vaccine and placebo groups.

 

Vaccines actually are produced faster than that. H1N1 took only 8 months for example. But they were dealing with a flu virus and that gave them a head start. Covid-19 came along this fast because it's genome structure was identified quickly because of new tech. I would have no fear of it because of what we know about how vaccines work and how the body reacts. There will be reactions to it but then some people can't eat peanuts and others die from a bee sting. Drugs take much longer to develop because they alter the functioning of the body whereas vaccines only accelerate natural functions.

 

~ If anyone thinks Pfizer's vaccine is something to worry about they should read about the one China just rolled out. ´´

 

I'm 72 with 2 co-morbidities. The virus is MUCH more problematic to me than any vaccine so I want it NOW

 

You can claim Pfizer is lying on their website about their vaccine if you like, but then why would you take the vaccine if you are certain they are lying - unless of course what the posted is too complex for you to grasp. The Nobel Prize biochemist who created of the test used for covid-19 explained that most people are "sheep" who can not understand that such as Anthony Fauci are paid to go on TV and lie nor can understand any of the science.

 

Who knows what it will do for you since nothing in their study indicated anyone in your age range was even tested. You should take some sugar pills since according to Pfizer this prevented over 99% of those who received the placebo also were immune from being infected.

 

And so an other thing:

Side effects of Pfizer:
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine


Pfizer is a nobody company who just did some testing and data collecting. The real powerhouse behind that vaccine is BioNtech. You know, the name the FDA puts behind Pfizer. BioNtech is German, with Merkels eyes right on top of it, and owned and run by muslim immigrants. So no Trump supporting weird butt AONN flat earth fruitcakes allowed. Just exceptional decent German science is the core of that succes. If you did any research in Pfizer, you would found out that quickly enough what company did what. So take your nose out of fakebook.

 

You obviously didn't read the OP links since the only additional info is Pfizer claims their vaccine is worthless for at least the first 28 days - 7 days after the 2nd injection 21 days after the first one.
You link provides no specifics about safety other than after 2 months it seemed safe.
As a comment, I have not heard the media explaining you have to get 2 Pfizer injections, not one.
So far, no one has even commented on the extremely low effectiveness when comparing those given the vaccine twice across 3 weeks and those who didn't, nor cared to comment that there is NO indication that even ONE elderly person was in the study.

 

Can't the difference in speed be explained by the improvement of lab technology?

"Not until?" Were you expecting it to be earlier than March?

 

YOU claim Pfizers own website is "fakebook."

As a comment, I have no Facebook account nor ever look at Facebook. Obviously you do.

 

I was referring to the short period of time. The required second injection was not until April, 2020.

 

You may gamble with your life however you wish. The question is can you and the government gamble with my life?

 

Pff... they still had to abolish apartheid in the US / they just invented the freaking hard disk when they had the vaccine against the mumps. Yeah, "maybe" email and personal computes and all kinds of other nifty inventions played a roll. "maybe"... lol

 

Even the government has no faith in the vaccines so are giving the companies total exemption from any liability. No matter what harms the vaccine(s) do and no matter how much it proved the companies lied, no one has any recourse against the drug company.

 

Can't the difference in speed be explained by the improvement of lab technology?

 

Mumps was the fastest. Curious how all the technology and magic - and 3 decades later no vaccine for the virus HIV/AIDS. Could that be because due to symptoms it IS known who has AIDS - and the covid-19 test detects any virus in the some COMMON category as covid-19 - and whether a person tests positive or negative depends upon how many times they duplicate the collected molecule - for which no one or 100% of everyone tests positive?

Specifically, at best the test detects novel corona viruses - which exactly everyone on earth had in their bodies and virtually none are harmful in any way.

People who get the flu, a cold, pneumonia - all common as dirt - are now CERTAIN they have covid-19. The 24/7 bioterrorism campaign of the plutocrats for their profit and power has been successful with the "sheep" - as the creator of the test claims - as he called Dr. Fauci and those going on TV professional liars who say whatever they are paid to say.