Pfizer vaccine is junk nor tested for safety otherwise

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  1. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    I am up to my ears in vaccines. Worked in South and Central America, Military, child hood. If I piss I piss some vaccine.
    My international vaccination passport has 21 entries.
     
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    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    No you do not see the folks who developed the vaccines on TV, or the folks who wade through the Testing data, the experts and professionals.

    You have to quit TV and social media and do your own research about vaccines and not repeat crap other people wright.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Yep... I have called myself the living pin cushion. In the military, you don’t have a choice, excused only if you have a known allergy. I even think I was inoculated against red horned elephants; must have worked... never seen one.
     
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    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    Not true. Pfizer has established a network with UPS, Fed Ex and the US government to distribute the vaccine at -70 C.
    Pfizer has developed cool boxes, which are monitored by GPS thermometer.
    The vaccine once thawed out can be refrigerated at 40F for up to 5 days.

    Sadly to say, your information level is facebook, extremely low.

    You should do better, don't you think so ?
     
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    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    I have jet to find the red eyed polar bears hiding in my straw berries, something must have worked.

    But I am sure glad you got of that tube alive, nice to have you around.

    I am thinking about my very first tattoo, I think they are disgusting, but a bulls eye on my left upper arm.
    Maybe a sharpy, would not want a person get that close to me at the present.
    Maybe later, probably not, one of those stik on would do.
    But I want 22 and 23 and hopefully be done with it.
     
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  6. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are so many Democrats such as you indicate about yourself addicted to Facebook? I have never had a Facebook or Twitter account and never look at Facebook pages.

    Oh, that's right. Most Democrats want to only see what the white male racist skinhead billionaire Mark Zuckerberg decides you may see, think and say. You have my sympathy.
     
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  7. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you admit you did not read the OP nor read the Pfizer link. I understand what Pfizer published is well over most people's head.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are wrong again. It took longer than the Mumps vaccine which took 4 years. Ebola took 5. But keep trying. Even a broken clock is accurate twice a day. :razz:
     
  9. gnoib

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    Despite all the shots I came home 3 times with some crap, that they quarantined me at the airport, sweating like a pig and shaking like a tree in a hurricane. They loved me at the Tropical Institute in Germany, a very fine specimen.

    "What the hell did you catch this time".
    Purp, get it of the floor and into the lab.


    groeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoehl
     
  10. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no litigation risk whatsoever for vaccinations.

    Can't keep secrets? How long before it was admitted N. Vietnam did not attack one of our ships? That the Lusitania in facts was carrying munitions? Etc.

    But with current censorship, it is irrelevant. You are allowed to only hear what the plutocrats allow you to hear about covid-19.

    You are not saying you don't believe me. You are saying you don't believe Pfizer about their vaccine and don't believe the Nobel Prize winner of the test used for covid-19 about the test - as those are who I cite.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow, you got CNN's talking points perfectly!

    Tell me, now many people over age 65 subjects were there? I guess Pfizer forgot to mention that, huh? How long is the vaccine good for? Measles vaccines are considered likely for a lifetime.
     
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    Well thats good news! In that case, I would definitely rather get the virus than the vaccine.
     
  13. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not one Democrat even pretends they read the Pfizer material of the OP. But you can claim what they said about their testing and vaccine is "crap" if you want to - and claim the Pfizer is engaged in a conspiracy against itself if you want to. LOL
     
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    No I followed the research and testing of bioNtech since January, I am invested in that company and keep a very close eye, on the companies I invest in.
    I read your OP and your link. I always do that before I respond to a threat.
    I invested hours to understand what biontech was doing in 2019, how that mRNA worked and how it might become the vaccine for cancer, HIV, Rabbis and so on. Had a Professor, a very good friend of mine, at the Schools of Mines, explain it to me, so that a dumb shiit like me could understand it.
    I found out about that company, in a short article, science, in a German news paper.
    cutting edge has always interested me, what ever it is and sometimes I invest.

    The ingrediency of the shot are well known, all the chemicals and how the body reacts to them, the RNA is not a worry, gone in 24 hours.
    What we do not know, how those mTs, might have a side efect, they are programmed.

    But my guess you do not know what mTs are.

    So when the US tried to bus Curevac, I spent a whole friking week end to find out, why, mRNA.

    Since than I have read everyting I can get about it.
    And Professor is overloading me. He is in rockets, explosive metals, bio materials for prothesis, hip joints, bionic replacements and crap like that.

    Ain't face book or an article, hard core science.

    As I said you have to quit that crap and dig into real hard core science publications.

    It might give your argument a values
     
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    I read it, does that make me a none democrat.

    Remind you its not Pfizer, may hurt MAGA, its bioNtech.
    And the juice for the US is currently produced in Belgium.
     
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    In NO way have I suggested that their material is crap.

    I'm saying that your conspiracy theory is crap.

    And, your opinion concerning how long a COVID vaccine might be good for is just more crap. It's well known that there hasn't been sufficient testing and time lapse for that to be known. The very idea of comparing our highly tested and evaluated measals vaccine to this less tested and very different type of vaccine targetting a novel virus is just plain nutty.

    We have a good number of vaccines that are well known not to be 100% effective, yet are highly recommended. 100% is a totally artificial objective.
     
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    4300 over 65. 21%.
     
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  18. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll bypass your constant insult and ask you then a simple question. You wrote:
    "(1) The ingrediency of the shot are well known,
    (2) the chemicals and how the body reacts to them, the RNA is not a worry, gone in 24 hours.


    So what are the ingredients and which chemicals since you claim you researched this and know.

    I would truly like to know. I am very knowledgeable about chemicals and absolutely know how to find out what I don't. I couldn't find that info about the vaccine and no, I never look at Facebook or blogs that are just lay or unqualified authors. That's why I quoted Pfizer itself and the inventor of the test used for covid-19 in his own exact words.
     
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    You should forward this info to Trump. He was pushing for approval of this vaccine. Maybe you can get him to reconsider.
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    4. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine (BNT162b2) 4.1. Vaccine Composition, Dosing Regimen The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is a white to off-white, sterile, preservative-free, frozen suspension for intramuscular injection. The vaccine contains a nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike glycoprotein (S) of SARS-CoV-2. The vaccine also includes the following ingredients: lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2- hexyldecanoate), 2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-distearoyl-snglycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Deal with your TDS problem with someone else.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you! Sincerely. That gives me a real homework assignment to explore - which I will do.

    I will NOT assert any negative. I do know that messenger RNA scares the hell out of technical knowledge antivaxers - which can be wrong knowledge, but I don't care about emotionalism as a fact question. Facts are facts.

    I won't comment on the compounds of the vaccine until I research this other than there are inherent risk with any messenger RNA. Doesn't mean there is for this vaccination. Wish this hadn't been so rushed - but I understand the "pandemic!!" viewpoint.

    Generally, one risk is that the modification could start an unpredicted negative resulting evolutionary process - which take time to know might happen - why it is unfortunate they don't have at least a couple years to watch out for that. The human body is such an extraordinary and complex organic machine being both a single organism and a fully co-dependent super colony at the same time that it is impossible to fully comprehend or understand.

    Virus are so small and everywhere, that with every breath a person breathes in millions. Despite their small size, I read if placed end to end they would stretch out 100 light years - and that is a very long way. There is not even consensus whether a virus is a life form nor whether and how much humans are dependent upon them. For example, virus may be necessary as a protection against bacteria etc.

    The inorganic (using the term generically) ingredients? I know much about chemicals including consumable. No problem with the other ingredients.

    This isn't rocket science. It is vastly more complex than rocket science. LOL

    Thanks again. :thumbsup:
     
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    Well, after this week, there shalt be zero negative Tweets about vaccines. Only good vaccine information allowed, sayeth the censors at Jack's Place...


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    ....and the adoring crowds roar with cheers and applause!
     
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    You still have Alex Jones. :)
     
  25. WillReadmore

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    This is not about the importance of certain viruses or whether a virus qualifies as a life form.

    And, this idea that the personal "investigation" of a poster holds some sort of position above that of the ENTIRE WORLD of science based medicine is serious narcicisim.
     

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