Q2 2020 GDP growth: -32.9%.... Yes, you've read it right.

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  1. HockeyDad

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    See what I mean? You don't care.

    THE CDC DIRECTOR SAID AND I QUOTE VERBATIM:
    Here is a transcript of the webinar in which he made that quote.
    https://www.buckinstitute.org/covid-webinar-series-transcript-robert-redfield-md/

    And it doesn't matter to you. It can't matter to you. There is narrative on the left and the narrative is to shut the damn economy down by any means necessary. Here you are demonstrating that narrative for all of us to see.

    There is a murderous rage that is rising on the right that I have never seen before. That rage is being instigated by the absolute refusal of the left to ACCEPT DATA.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    What idiocy is this ^^^^^? What are you even referring to? The question was about whether to delay an election as a question, not a suggestion that we should do it. And now, having been framed for the clearly wrong characterization, you'll run with this? Really? Laughing.......
     
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    Germany vs US:

    upload_2020-7-30_11-55-11.png

    The US has 25-times the new per day per capita covid cases compared to Germany. The US has 3-times worse GDP drop compared to Germany. MAGA on all fronts.

    It seems that you take care of covid, you take care of the economy. When will that ever sink in with Trump?
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Hmm.. ok, we did that. And not only did we do that, we continue to do that, and yet, we still have infections. You have no answer, and instead, you create a straw man out of nothing to demonstrate that what you wrote was defensible, which clearly it is not. You have no comparable that are credible here. So why continue down the "I know better " path that you are?
     
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    Good point.

    Personally, I'm surprised the number wasn't significantly higher.
     
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    I cited the numbers from the CDC. You are still wrong. I know that doesn't matter to you, even when YOUR OWN ****ING ARTICLE SAYS YOU ARE WRONG, but you are still wrong. No, there is no evidence that suicides have eclipsed COVID deaths. Your claim that the CDC agrees with you has been disproven.

    Your entire "point" consists of pretending that 146,000 < 48,000. A Junior High kid should be able to correct this.

    You are misrepresenting CDC data and relying solely on fake arguments for all to see.

    YOUR OWN DATA SAYS YOU ARE WRONG, AS I'VE ALREADY PROVEN. Is asking you to read really too much to ask?
     
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    No, that is you putting words into my mouth. Typical trait of the left. My point, however is that the people that ARE impacted tend to be those that are elderly and have underlying issues. That is who we should be protecting while we get our economy back on track since most people will have little to no effects from COVID 19. 80% of all reported "COVID Deaths" have been in the age group of 65 and older and much of those had existing comorbidities.

    https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku/data

    Edit to add regarding tracking COVID deaths.

     
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    And this is Trumps fault? If we did it the Democrat way way, we would have **** down completely back in Feb, and been paying everyone through what, Christmas? Care to guess what our GDP and debt wouod be if the country was at a complete standstill like Democrats want?

    phony mother frackers. We’d by 10x worse with Democrats in control. Activists wouldn’t be burning fires because they’re bored. We’d have people rioting over food!!!
     
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    So, when it doesn't happen, you'll what? A) for get you said this, or B) apologize?
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    No, it isn't. In fact, given the scope of the lockdowns, the numbers look surprisingly good. Get it yet?
     
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    And how do we protect them while we “get our economy back”?
     
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    Pretty large sections of the economy, restaurants, service businesses, the entertainment industry, sports, In CA for example, any business not gov or otherwise exempted is shuttered. Still. Schools are shuttered, (although teachers and admin are still getting paid), etc. Daycare facilities... the list is long,
     
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    Quarantine those who are at the highest risk while testing care givers extensively. Infected patients get 100% segregated and treated versus sending them back like the Minnesota governor and Cuomo did.
     
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    One of many examples, unfortunately.

    Owners of Bellmawr's Atilis Gym arrested for defying state orders
     
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    Herman Cain died, almost certainly, because he attended Trump's useless rally.
     
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    Let us suppose that someone comes up to you and says, "Are you ****ing stupid or what?" Is your reaction to say, "Oh man, this guy is genuinely interested in my level of intellect. That wasn't an insult, it was just a question!"

    No, because you are not ****ing stupid.
     
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    How would you like me to address the recovery rate?

    By saying that it is a good thing that this virus is likely only around six-eight times as lethal as influenza?

    Perhaps you would like me to address it by noting that this virus causes permanent lung and heart damage to significantly more than 1%?

    Perhaps you would like me to address the recovery rate by noting that 0.6% of the US population is around 1,700,000 dead Americans?
     
  19. Arkanis

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    BS.

    Canada was in a national lockdown for 45 days.

    How do you explain the fact that this country isn't experiencing a slowdown as pronounced as the US?
     
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    And yet you are speculating as you have zero evidence that he contracted the virus there. Even if he did, Herman new the risk and I'm truly saddened by his loss.
     
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    The degree to which each country is experiencing an economic retraction is directly linked to the size of the pandemic outbreak within those countries.

    The US is seeing the worst, and thus it is experiencing one of the worst economic contractions.
     
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    I did say "almost certainly" for a reason.

    upload_2020-7-30_12-18-22.png
     
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    It always ends up being the Democrats' fault.
     
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    Whoa.. I hadn't heard that Canada was in BLM turmoil and many of their cities were on fire with riots across the land. Unless of course, you do not think the riots have anything to do with the economy?
     
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    Again, how can you be "almost certain"? Were the people in that photo also COVID-19 patients?
     

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