Q2 2020 GDP growth: -32.9%.... Yes, you've read it right.

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  1. HockeyDad

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    Please God please say that Democrats now support opening the economy fully back up. According to the CDC, deaths of despair have now eclipsed Covid deaths. The "cure" is killing more people than the "sickness". Open up the damn economy now or you will have an armed revolt on your hands.

     
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    The truth of the matter is that these democrats WANTED this to happen. In fact they are giddy about it.

    The USA has unfortunately become more of a service based economy in the last 25 years. Shutting it down hurt, and badly.
     
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    The service basis has nothing to do with this. Manufacturing is being hit, too. Nor would we have been able to grow as much as we did without focusing on service. But if all you can think of are straw men, then I suppose that at least gives you something to be "giddy" about.
     
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    LOL... you and your "facts".... try again. And every time that Hillary Clinton "loving" Fauci moved the goal posts, you cheered. We can repost should it come to that. Now, explain again why, after 6 months of shut down we still have cases. The curve got flattened, and then folks, like you, claimed we had to shut down indefinitely waiting a cure. All the while the economy died. And you still support that today..
     
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    Can you provide the actual CDC sources for your claim?
     
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    Service has everything to do with it. Service sector jobs have been by far the hardest hit and that is statistical fact. You have no idea what you are even talking about. Straw man? Maybe you should look up the definition before you use it incorrectly and make yourself look ignorant.
     
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    Which has nothing to do with how The Treasury Dept. measures GDP. Your attempt to try to blame CNN would be like me saying that Obama's GDP average would have been higher if Fox News had been taken off the air.

    Sorry dude. The buck stops at the President's desk.
     
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    Have you flown anywhere lately?
     
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    Again how can they spread anything if no one watches them??????
     
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    Watch the video and get them yourself. Why do you even pretend to care anyways? Facts don't matter to the left in any way, shape or form. All that matters to them is blowing up the economy because orange man bad. For a damn election, they have ruined the lives of millions.
     
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    Who cares how the Treasure measures anything? Most of us understood the consequences of shutting the economy down, AND that it would directly negatively influence ALL of the measures for it, including GDP. That isn't the point. Although those who shill for it to continue do the nation a huge disservice, like those at CNN, who think it gets them more views. clicks, etc when they try to spread their message of fear.
     
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    The service industry is more than just restaurants, etc. It includes consultants, lawyers, etc. And the lockdown hit manufacturing too. And, yes, I know the definition of a straw man, hence calling your out for your whole "Democrats wanted this to happen" nonsense.
     
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    I'm not on the left, and I asked for the CDC's info, not some random YouTuber. But keep up the fake arguments about people harming the economy on purpose just to hurt poo widdle Twump. Because orange man God and orange man critics bad.
     
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    If they died from "something brought on by Covid," then they died from Covid.

    FFS. You try to represent yourself as a medical person.
     
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    Here you are, discussing it now. You seem scared....
     
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    Follow this bit of logic here because it is difficult.

    When you shut down the speech of the news media, then the speech of the news media is being shut down.
     
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    Wait until he finds out aids doesn’t actually kill anyone.
     
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    A) The notion that more people are dying of suicide than covid-19 is total bullshit and you should not use a youtube video to explain a conspiracy theory.

    B) If you think that people are committing suicide because of the stress created by covid-19, then you should blame covid-19 for their suicides.
     
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    We didn't shut down for 6 months and, in fact, Trump encouraged States to reopen before a single State had met even the minimal thresholds set by the federal government for opening.
     
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    How exactly does exposing the contradiction in your argument make ME "scared?"
     
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    Trump suggested delaying the election today.
     
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    LOL... NO, we have a protection from government interfering in the free press. That doesn't make them essential. They are businesses like everyone else. They can, and should be treated the same way everyone else is.
     
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    So you are gong to blame an entertainment company (CNN) for the President's response to Covid? That would make Trump an empty suit who is led around by the media. Trump could have gotten together with the governors back in March to create a
    unified response to the virus. He could have helped lay down a unified attack plan like the leaders of many other countries that
    have fared better economically than the US. He could have ...

    He went golfing, instead. His choice. His leadership.

    So is Trump an empty suit controlled by CNN? Does he not have a phone to talk with the governors? Was his priority golfing
    and campaign rallies in February and March? The buck stops at Trump's desk - not the news rooms at CNN.
     
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    Two weeks. 6 Months later, you still want to move goal posts.
     
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    Why purposefully try to deflect here? CNN cheerlead. And now they fearmonger. That behavior is theirs, no one else's. Period.
     

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