Senate Intel Dems Admit There May Be ZERO Evidence Of Collusion Between Russians And Trump Campaign

What about your smug self assurance? What happens if they all come out and say: There's no evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians for political purposes? Will Sessions get an apology?

 

You mean the ones where tbe heads of the CIA and FBI say there is no evidence? Or the ones where the Congressional Dems on the intelligence committees say there is no evidence.

Point me the ones that present the evidence for I surely have missed them.

 

You bring things in topic - you do the job of verifying them. Otherwise I may come to conclusion that you have nothing to back your words.

 

It is understandable, critical lefties simply cannot accept Trump's election, it is inconceivable there would be enough "deplorables" for him to win. They expected Hillary would prevail, she echoed all their prescribed views, she was a woman, super qualified catering to all their favorite causes; for the environment, feminism, free trade, immigration, minorities, trade unionism, multilateralism, the alternatively life-styled, against fossil fuels, this was their dream come true and a foregone conclusion.

She confonted the most unlikely challenger; brash, uncouth, abrassive, politically incorrect, a plain spoken ultra nationalist, misogynistic, homophobic, racist xenophobe and his basket of likeminded deplorables. In a waythis was their ideal challenge, they expected the outcome would show once and for all the inviability of all those deplorable traits.

It turned out otherwise and Democrats simply cannot accept this, there has to be something other than the evident popular will to explain Trump's victory: It was the Russians! They hacked Hillary's emails, messed around with her campaign's communications, leaked internal messages revealing their secrets; they tampered with sacrosanct election procedures, manipulated results; worked in collusion with deplorable traitors in Trump's team to defile the democratic process.

Democrats need to come to terms with reality; they grew complacent, their base was a bit turned off by their own extremes, Hillary seemed too pedantic in her overly rehearsed and all-encompassing talking points, more of the same just didn't seem that attractive, people wanted change.

Since Democrats are so certain their views epitomized by Hillary's campaign are the ideal for this nation, until they accept the need for actual change, before they can begin working on establishing a connection that will return them a majority, they must eliminate every conceivable alternative explanation.

We all know the Russians didn't lose Hillary the election, it wasn't artful collusion with shadowy Trump team members. Conservatives should encourage the Democrats waste their time and effort trying to find alternative and outlandish explanations for their electoral debacle, this will delay their recognition of a need to reconnect with their constituents while Trump builds the foundations that gained him support from his always deplorable base.

 

So even more denial. Yet when Clinton's actions were in question, and the investigation went on, you encouraged it.

BTW, your notion that there was no hacking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
The United States Intelligence Community has officially concluded that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 United States elections.[1] An intelligence community assessment stated, "Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Hillary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments."


You continue with your moral judgements

 

Heh.

Donald Trump Has a Much Higher Approval Rating in Russia Than He Does in America

 

I don't care what 'confidence' they have in their judgments. They lack proof, and they didn't bring these judgments before INTL law. No, instead they made the judgments themselves. A kangaroo court. Furthermore, a good deal of their information came from that dossier. Relying on something like that, tells you all you need to know about the intelligence community.

 

Oh, they have colncluded! Made an assesment! And have a high confidence, even..!

Cool. Really cool. I can wipe my ass with that assesment if there no - and there is no - evidence presented. They have not resleased to public any sort of evidence, but sure are eager to release their OPINION to the public!
Opinion - or, maybe even, position - that has not changed for seventy years.

Well, ***** - whole world watched these elections and one of his promises was warm up of relations between countries. People here hoped he'll eliviate sanctions and reopen dialogue between USA and RF. What's so suprising? People want peace - not a second Cold War.

 

They were actually there and interviewed. Go ahead, call them liars or admit you screwed up. Again.

 

That's true. There is only evidence that the Trump administration has lied about Russian intervention. But it's true that we don't know the reason yet.

If there was no collusion, that means they were manipulated. I think it would be better if there was collusion. At least that way it wouldn't make us look dumb.

 

More fake news? Congratulations, you people never let up with your propaganda. How much are you being paid?

 

"Not to my knowledge" is a common shuck-and-jive these days. The Trump Cartel will learn to use it more and more often. As for now, they're still amateurs....

 

You keep stuffing your taxmoney into a military alliance created as coalition against country that does not exists anymore, and keep living fed up with outdated, spoiled propaganda made against that already nonexistant country - and don't want to look dumb?

 

Looks like the Republican-controlled House Intelligence committee did just that

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/2...ssteps-in-benghazi-attack-gop-controlled.html

 

Awesome video thanks for posting it.

 

So you are calling them liars?

 

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The most likely outcome for US/Russian relations, unfortunately, is a return to the Cold War. Trump of course doesn't want that, but it may be unavoidable.

Putin’s ideology and perceived national interests needs the West to be his enemy, permanent Washington needs the same. I'm not sure Trump can overcome either. Maybe with a deadly determined Congress determined to wrest control back from the Deep State, but I think most of Congress is as scared of them as they are of Trump. With Trump the only one of the the three groups that is term limited, how this plays out is not difficult to predict.

Russia was defeated by the Mongol invasion in 1240 and forcibly incorporated into the Golden Horde Empire for 200 years. Russia’s capital is on the European continent, but Russians see themselves as Eurasian. North Korea and China both border Russia.

Putin's Eurasian Economic Union, including Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Armenia is an authoritarian crony state-capitalist competitor to the liberal democratic West, Putin's Warsaw pact. He isn't about to dump that project to become a junior partner of the European Union and NATO when he’s the undisputed one-man boss of an entire continent-spanning alternative.

Both the European Union and Putin’s Eurasian Economic Union wooed Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia for possible future membership. Rather than joining Putin’s Union like Belarus and the others, all three signed association agreements with the European Union. And all three have since been dismembered and occupied in part by the Russians, preventing them from joining the Western alliance. Neither the European Union nor NATO will even consider accepting a member state that has a disputed territorial conflict with Moscow.

Personnel is policy. United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley and Defense Secretary James Mattis—are staunchly hawkish on Russia. “There's a decreasing number of areas where we can engage cooperatively,” Mattis said recently, “and an increasing number of areas where we're going to have to confront Russia.”

Between Trump and his military build-up, Putin has lost his monopoly over geopolitical unpredictability. The Kremlin’s ability to shock the world by taking the initiative and trashing ordinary international rules and customs has allowed Russia to play an over-sized international role and to punch above its weight. Putin now has to share the capacity to keep the world off balance with Trump, who is vastly more powerful. More World leaders are watching Trump anxiously than Putin.

The Russians have plenty of reasons to fear the emergence of a sustained bipartisan American hostility to Russia and Putin, with Donald Trump himself as its champion. That dwarfs anything the world has seen since Ronald Reagan, and that brought down the Soviet Union, whose power and influence Putin would like to re-create. This will inevitably bring Putin into conflict with Trump and that will likely bring to the fore a bi-partisan anti-Russian consensus, seriously, how would Democrats flip to opposing this?

More: http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/brace-yourself-new-cold-war

 

Clapper already blew up the Russian theory. The evidence is growing that the information gleaned by the FISA warrant for Trumps server was leaked. That's a major league felony. Somebody is going to prison, it's only a matter of time.

 

The Huffing Paint Post isn't a credible source, try another one.

 

Me?.. I didn't write that article. Nor the Republican's House Intelligence Committee findings.

 

Then you'd have to agree the pay to play was working while Hillary was SOS and that Hillary stored classified material in her basement server. Correct? You can't have it both ways.

 

I can only hope Sessions appoints a special prosecutor for the whole stinking mess and let the chips fall where they may.

 

I also find it interesting that the Left suddenly loves the CIA. Why is that?

In 2002 the net favorability of the CIA was:
+5 for Republicans
- 20 for Democrats.

Now it's:
+4 for Republicans
+ 32 for Democrats.

~ WSJ/NBC

Former liberal Congressman from Ohio, Dennis Kucinich (D) -- disclosing the fact that he was wiretapped in 2011 and only learned about it after the Washington Times let him listen to the surveillance tape. Let that sink in for a moment.

 

You mean James Clapper don't you.