South Africa refers Israel to International Criminal Court

I'm laughing at the irony...lol

 

What irony? lol
I mean. Mandela had a huge problem with the Jewish state close ties with the SA apartheid state and added he supported Zionism just like Palestinian nationalism, and objected to the way Israel is compromising the right of self determination of the Palestinians. The criticism was so hard that the Jewish state was the only country who never invited Mandela over when he was president. You lot just do not get racism, as a violent oppressor and colonizer of the state of Palestine.

 

mischaracterize other posts much?

 

Did I ever say people needed to get off their own private property?

No, I didn't.

 

So you pushed a book without having a point.

maybe make some points, and not just blather randomly

 

The book details the evils involved in stealing and driving people off their own private property by force.

That is still my point. Israel is murdering and raping its way to steal the private property of others. This is wrong. They should be stopped.

 

So you have a problem with people being moved off their land therefore you should have a problem with the land you are currently on as it belongs to someone else. Stop stealing other peoples land.

This isn’t hard

 

Any property I came to possess, I did not steal. I bought it. Now you want to claim that someone maybe might have stolen it a couple hundred years ago? Who was the private property owner I stole it from? Give me the name of the individual I stole private property from.

Otherwise, stop the ad hominem attacks.

Allow me to point out that there is a difference between public land and private property. There is plenty of public land which should be given back to the Native American Tribes or individuals if the land is public property and they have a claim to the land or want in kind compensation to land which is now privately owned.

Similarly, 93% of Israel is public land and not owned privately. No one needs to lose their private property to allow the Palestinians to return.

The continued destruction and theft of Palestinian property through murder and rape is evil and wrong and should be stopped.

 

If you’re in N.America that land was taken and its natives moved onto reservations. Legally buying land from those who took that land from others is somehow okay with you? How convenient.

tell me where you live and I’ll tell you from whom that land was stolen so that you could legally possess it from the government who stole it in the first place.

Which now forces you to fall back on “ohhhh gosh but that was sooooo long ago surely no one cares about it…” another very easy cop out of your flagrant and self-serving hypocrisy especially when there are no native Americans who are shooting rockets at you and skinning you alive in order to reclaim it.

You and I both know what your answer would be if there were native Americans wanting to kill you and rape your daughter to death, and it ain’t “oh gosh so sorry you’re right this is your land please take it back!” LOL

 

You're obviously having problems with the rules of the forum and staying clear of personal attacks.

Let's just name a specific address 1600 Pennsylvania avenue. Name the person who owned this private property and had it stolen from them. I've given you an easy one.

Why do I not have to worry about Native American tribes despite their living right next to me and owning a lot rifles?

Have you ever thought about that? It's because they are treated with respect, their property rights are recognized, and they are allowed to live in peace throughout the nation, from sea to shining sea. Just like how Palestinians want to live free from the river to the sea.

Let's be honest though. It's the Palestinians who have to worry about being killed and having their daughters raped and murdered - not the Israelis.

 

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it’s not a person. It’s a tribe. Native Americans controlled territory by tribe. You don’t even know that? Goodness how sad. Reservations are also owned by tribe. Looks like you’re starting from square one about things here yet talk like an expert about lands you don’t even come from. Doesn’t do much for credibility.

Starting from square one again about tribal removal and forced reservations I see. Here’s a hint: they weren’t asked nicely. And whether they are nice now or not about it is completely irrelevant to the point that they were forced onto reservations and their land now belongs to you and others like you who have zero problem staying there.

Got a link to your contention that israeli government policy is to rape Palestinians and Palestinians and terrorists haven’t raped any Israelis?

And while you’re at it, got a plan for removing Israelis and where you’re going to put them and whose land you’re going to take from someone else in order to do it? I’d love to hear it, or is your plan to just hope Hamas kills them all so you don’t have to be bothered with your dream of ethnically cleansing the Israelis?

 

Actually, you blew up your own argument.

You never realized I was talking about private property. So, you've been arguing with a straw man all this time.

You have to listen to the other person to have a proper discussion. It's the thing civilized people do.

 

Didn’t answer or explain a thing. Dodge dodge away, just be sure not to dodge over to Gaza. You wouldn’t want to do anything like fight for what you believe. LOL. Stop those evil Israelis! …from your Native American stolen land basement! Lol!

 

And despite that we are able to live peacefully with them while the Israeli's are not.

Palestinians getting raped by Israeli's is well known.
How colonizers weaponize rape: reflections from the Palestinian case – Mondoweiss
Palestinian women haunted by abuse in Israeli jails | Middle East Eye
“It’s not something that’s done by an individual soldier who decided to humiliate or mistreat [the prisoners],” she said. “It’s part of the process, part of the policy, in order to affect the entire society and put it under pressure... because they are aware that [gender] is a sensitive subject in Palestinian society.”
As for the other that's your business to provide sources for.

Once again, don't remove people from their private property. 93% of Israeli land is public and as such should be available for use, purchase, and compensation to Palestinians.

Just because you have a dream of ethnic cleansing does not mean I do.

 

I gave you an easy address and you weren't able to even find a tribe much less a person it was stolen from.

 

So if I find the tribe it belongs to youll promise to give it back to them?

 

Most terrorism is directed by Muslims at other Muslims. I do not think they are waiting to take orders from Evangelicals. If Muslims ever succeed in destroying Israel, Islamic terrorism will continue.

 

that’s all you got? So no, you don’t have proof of Israelis raping anybody, let alone at a systemic level.

let me clue you in: proof is not someone else’s conclusion that you link to. Proof is actual numbers proven with evidence and documentation.

How sad, you’ll just take anyone’s word for it though. I wonder why?

So you want Israelis to be removed from 93% of their land by forced compensation to Palestinians. Sounds like ethnic cleansing to me bro. And where are the Israelis supposed to go? Still haven’t answered that or much else

 

Most terrorism is directed by the U.S. onto others. U.S. supports Israel, the terrorist of the Middle East.

 

Not what I said. Try reading again.

 

So what you are telling me is that many non-Islamist Americans who cheer on Jihadists and Hamas terrorists do so because they hate the USA and that includes USA allies such as Israel.

 

No.

 

LOL. Sorry for laughing, dude-- but it's funny! You'd started off, telling Wild Bill that he was falling for being trolled; and almost without missing a beat, you allow yourself to be trolled-- by the same person!


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I have no idea if they did or didn't. I can condemn it either way. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the fact you were falling for someone who was trolling you.



As they say: "misery loves company!"

 

While of course any country's actions can be brought before the I.C.C., that does not mean that the leaders in question need show up, or accept the ruling. As in the case with the U.S., Israel is not a signatory of the Int'l Criminal Court.


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According to him, Israel has in the past used international law to defend itself in the face of accusations of illegitimate violence. While it is not a signatory to the ICC's establishing 1998 treaty, it can still be taken to the court.Oct 19, 2023
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International Criminal Court no threat for Israel as it 'tries the weak rather than the
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well I see lots of hate towards America by those who love Jihadists and hate Israel