South Africa refers Israel to International Criminal Court

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  1. Gilos

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    Tell you what
    We'll finish things at Gaza, move up to the WB, then Lebanon - and then you can do whatever you want to Bibi, use body cameras like your heroes did and we'll watch it.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The verdict will likely be 'not guilty' because the ICC is as corrupt as any court in the US or Great Britain or the west in general. I hope I'm wrong.

    George Bush & Co were convicted of war crimes in Malaysia, thanks to the efforts of Francis Boyle of Illinois Law School. Hopefully Bibi and the rest will be convicted. I'm not holding my breath.
     
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    Why just do something to Bibi when you all are in on it?
     
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    I don't recall any scandals.
     
  5. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's possible that cognitive dissonance, an involuntary reaction, will not allow you to perceive events that threaten your world view.
     
  6. Gilos

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    Because calls to violence are forbidden here, unless you confine it just to Jews....which I know you dont 'cause there are also Christian Zionists
     
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    South Africa is NOT telling Israel to do anything at all.

    Reality matters.
     
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    same with the court. it's a paper tiger like the UN.
     
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    why didn't that clown try to arrest and take Bush into Custody? Malaysia had no jurisdiction over President Bush. Have you read up on him-he's a smart guy with some serious mental illnesses apparently-a whacko conspiracy theorist who seems to currently hate the USA and he clearly is a virulent Jew hating bigot.
     
  10. Esau

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    What it will do, if Israelis are charged with war crimes, is enable countries to place sanctions on Israel settlers.
     
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  11. Eleuthera

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    Because of obscure procedural details created by lawyers like you.

    Apparently Bush and the rest of those convicted in absentia have been essentially forced to remain in the US. Recall that Bush & Co removed the US from any ICC influence.
     
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    yeah stuff like due process, jurisdictional requirements and other inconveniences.
     
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    well if the USA goes along with that-maybe that would cause issues. I sort of doubt that will happen in any century I can think of
     
  14. Eleuthera

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    Yes, things like that. Procedures that support the status quo and work against truth and justice.
     
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    Your concept of truth and justice is not one that most Americans would support, I suspect.
     
  16. Eleuthera

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    You're quite right about that! We can only speculate on the actual number, but most Americans are thoroughly brainwashed and detached from reality. As Casey noted in 1981, when everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts. Most Americans are simply not aware, just as I once was, of what happened in 1967 with the USS Liberty. Once informed, most will deny it, and the rest will say "Oh Israel is our ally and would not do that. It must have been by mistake"
     
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    no what most Americans understand is that we are not going to let some third rate country that has nothing to do with us trying to interfere with our international policies. WTF did the USA do to Malaysia that justifies that place having any jurisdiction over our elected leaders. I know about the Liberty. I know there is an intense debate if it was intentional or a mistake by the IDF. I know that anti semitic hatred is still seething in the USA as well
     
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    The debate is 'intense' only amongst the true believers in the innocence of Israel.

    For those who were there and for those who judge only the facts, there is no debate whatsoever. The Israeli government is not our ally. Like our own government, it is a criminal organization.

    Allies do not kill our sailors. Lyndon Johnson and Admiral McCain called back the flight of phantoms sent out to defend the men. They were traitors, but that's old news indeed.

    George W. Bush and Dick Cheney Found Guilty of War Crimes (esquire.com)
     
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    It's more likely to be the EU that calls Israel out since Israel is USA's 51st state.
     
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    I suspect the anti semitic hate that has festered in Europe for 1000 years will erupt again
     
  21. Esau

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    For sure there is government sponsored anti semitism, calling pro palestinian marches as hate marches is a fine example of anti semitism. Calling hamas rapists is a typical anti semitic trope designed to paint Arabs as predators of white women, is another common phrase.
     
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    You're free to source them so called scandals of corruption.
    So far, you have not.
     
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    Oh is it? The Israeli government got a plan how to ethnic cleanse all of Gaza. We had one Jewish extremist in that Israeli government yelling harder and louder how much the carnage must be for the civilians, all the way that they all must be nuked. Israel bombs Palestinians with the entire neighborhood full of innocent civilians when they plan that. But they aint doing that to Jews who are like that towards Palestinians. In fact them lot can just remain alive and make some more plans. That makes that Jewish homeland of yours a fascist and racist state and rightfully the most condemned nation on this planet.
     
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    Yes, I've long wondered why there is such a long history in humans of resentment of Jews. I think it is not limited to just muslims.
     
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    You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink.

    You can lead a man to knowledge, but you cannot make him think.
     

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