The Jewish People and the US Left

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  1. Moonglow

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    It was really all about the passion play of the Christ where the Jews got it from, before it was over their rebellions and a one God thingy.
     
  2. Zorro

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    Sure, yet when they protest the nation, we also get racist crap like "Gas The Jews". Your fig leaf covers nothing. We all know what we are dealing with here, the world has dealt with this evil since the Garden.
     
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  3. Zorro

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    The Jewish People have got to be in complete shock.
    • They don't really like us.
    • The folks they do like turned on them in their greatest hour of need after the unspeakable mass rape and mass murder of so many young women and young moms. Unspeakable evil and depravity were loosed on them in an incomprehensible nightmare.
    • And now they learn that the same people who hate us, hate them more.
    UK Doctor Suspended After Calling Hamas Attack On Israel A "Very Welcome Punch On The Nose"
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  4. Moonglow

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    Wear a flea collar
     
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    The original reason for the marginalization and persecution of Jews was fear. Early Christian rulers feared the influence of Judaism on their Christian subjects. That fear led to expulsions and ghettoization of Jews, forcing them to live in closed communities and follow a special dress code. Jews have been accused of causing everything bad, from earthquakes to communism through the black plague.

    Every time someone claims "Jews did this", "Jews want that", I want to ask "which Jews"? The Jews of Morocco, the Jews of Iraq, the Jews of India, the Jews of China, the Jews of Yemen, the Jews of Jerusalem, the Jews of Ethiopia, the Jewish Lemba? Do all these Jews still believe (if they ever did in the first place) that socialism and communism work? Really?

    Regarding the condemning of the innocent savior to death, may I gently remind you that his death was an essential part of your god's plan? Some Jews had the honor of being chosen to fulfill your god's will, yet you complain about it? Pfftt.
     
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    Maybe.

    I can tell you now that particular poster is a rampant hard right, Trump supporting dude who supports all of the same stuff that the Trump supporters support, especially leading towards Qanon etc.

    His anti-semitism or whatever you call it surprised me. The type of stuff that he and his friends post is anti-semitic and anti-israel and holocaust denying and seems to come from multiple angles, with lots of other stuff thrown in including Epstein, Clintons, Gates, etc.That was a small sample. I could literally send you 20 or 30 times that amount of material per week that is spewed out in their little conspiracy thread, most of which are jpegs from the online anonymous Chan groups. I don't spend too much time try to figure out how his/their brain works but from the verbal diarreah accompanying these pictures that spouts forth it seems to come from some notion that evil globalists and 'banksters' (i.e. banking gangsters) run the world and that they are mostly Jewish. But as I said, once you try and locate some sort of logic the whole thing just falls apart as irrational nonsense. I'm guessing politician MGT is part of the same ilk as these guys. I wouldn't let bother you at all because they are all unimportant people.

    My point was there is an active right wing membership that does this stuff, it's not just the left. I wasn't avoiding the topic I just can't be bothered replying to the other poster.
     
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  7. Pisa

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    Antisemitism is the common ground where extremists from the right and left meet. The difference between them is that the extreme right hates all Jews because they were born Jews, while the extreme left only hates those Jews who are not willing to renounce their Jewishness for ideological purposes. Simply put, both sides practice identity politics: openly on the right, hidden under heaps of human rights rhetoric on the left. Traditional racism on the right, ideology-based racism (Corbynism on steroids) on the left.
     
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    Fake News.

    They were changing 'YOU will not replace us.'

    Not Jews. 'YOU' Referring to the Left's plan to replace native voters with Open Borders.

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    'The increasingly popular notion that "demographics are destiny" made it easier for the progressive base to argue against moderation and in favor of mobilizing a new coalition of young and...'

    You think we forgot that the Left was pushing this crap about how they were going to replace us with open borders; Texas and FL were to supposed to have already turned blue.

    The chant was YOU, not Jew.
    It had nothing to do with Jews, and everything to do with the Dems Open Borders plan to replace the American Voter.

    But nice try with the disinformation.

    Israel Rebuts Genocide Charge by Declassifying Decisions

    Combatting Leftwing lies with facts.
     
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    UPENN raises both middle fingers into the face of the Jewish People.

    UPENN REWARDS PROF’S ANTI-SEMITISM: 'Professor Dorothy Roberts, who teaches sociology and law at the University of Pennsylvania, is being honored by the school with her selection to deliver the 23rd Annual Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Lecture in Social Justice.'

    'The lecture assembly is being hosted by the UPenn Center for Africana Studies, the Penn Carey Law School, and the Department of Sociology. Another host is particularly noteworthy because it is the Annenberg School of Communication. The Annenberg is Walter Annenberg, whose Triangle Publications owned the Philadelphia Inquirer, TV Guide, the Daily Racing Form and Seventeen magazine.'

    Roberts “signed a letter accusing Israel of ‘genocide’ and ‘apartheid’ and denounced U.S. military support for the Jewish state as a ‘moral catastrophe.'”

    'Her selection comes in the wake of the resignation of UPenn President Liz McGill following her inability/refusal to condemn anti-semitism on her campus in the wake of the October 7 Hamas terrorist attack in Israel that left more than 1,200 Israeli men, women, children and infants dead, including many who were murdered in horrendous ways.'

    'Reminder that Penn is trying to revoke Amy Wax’s tenure for insensitivity about affirmative action.'

    https://instapundit.com/628652/
     
  10. Melb_muser

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    I am sorry about that. It must take a tough skin sometimes to get through the day.

    It's a pity that the Palestinians are not hot-headed in the way that the Greeks or Italians are renound to be. I'm sure you would be leaving peacefully side by side if that were the case. You really drew the short straw for religiously fanatical neighbours.
     
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    Mayor Brandon Johnson Alienates Jewish Chicago

    'After flicking away the Hamas atrocities, Johnson discussed the crucible of the Middle East in terms of Black “liberation.” If you parse those comments, you can see he wasn’t just speaking of a desire to protect civilians and promote peace, a reasonable position many of us share, but to frame the Israeli-Hamas conflict in stark terms of the oppressor and the oppressed.'

    We've learned that if you let them get away with labeling you as an "oppressor" that its fine to mass rape and murder your young women and young moms.

    'How did Johnson think those comments would make metropolitan Chicago’s 300,000 Jews feel? He either didn’t think about it or didn’t care. We’ll venture to suggest it made them feel less heard and less safe.'
     
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    WHY IS HIGHER ED SUCH A CESSPIT OF HYPOCRISY AND HATE? Harvard prof who signed letter accusing Israel of running ‘regime of apartheid’ appointed to anti-Semitism task force.

    Israel Still Uninterested in the Opinions of World’s Pro-Hamas Leftists. “Foreign policy in this administration is essentially being influenced by loud, ignorant college kids.”

    'The savage attacks on Israel by Hamas last October 7 have revealed an inordinate amount of ugliness around the world, especially on college campuses in the United States. Gone are the immediately post 9/11 days when many on the American Left were still willing to call Islamic terrorists evil. That epiphany was rather short-lived and soon morphed into leftists being default terrorist apologists.'

    'For the most part, Americans have the luxury of not worrying about large-scale attacks on our homeland. Obviously, there have been two notable exceptions in the 20th and 21st centuries. I truly fear that the Biden-sponsored invasion of our southern border will lead to another one sooner rather than later. Still, we don't get thrown into existential crisis mode much anymore.'

    'Our ally, Israel, is forever dealing with an existential crisis, being surrounded by people who want it destroyed and are filled with religious zeal in their efforts to make it happen. No matter how hard any American diplomat or academic tries, they'll never understand the mindset of the Israeli people.'

    'That doesn't prevent them from posturing and lecturing the Israeli government, however.'

    'Almost immediately after Oct. 7, escaped patients from the Joe Biden Home for the Criminally Insane U.S. officials — Democrats, of course — began urging Israel to cave in and ease up on Hamas.'
     
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    It seems to be evenly distributed across the political spectrum.
     
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    Our job is to call it out wherever it pokes up it's vile head, right or left, and the world has a long history of failing to do this. But we have power over our corner of history and what we do today.

    DEMOCRATS FOMENTING ANTISEMITISM: Jamaal Bowman Accused Israel of Genocide. Now, Vandals Are Defacing Jewish Businesses in His District With the Same Message.

    Left-wing congressman condemns 'stoking divisions and hatred' after saying Israel committed 'ethnic cleansing'

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    'Jewish-owned businesses in Democratic congressman Jamaal Bowman's New York district were defaced with anti-Semitic graffiti that read, "Genocide supporter," an accusation Bowman himself hurled at Israel following Hamas's Oct. 7 attack.'

    'Bowman's own rhetoric disparaged the Jewish state. Bowman in November attended a "ceasefire now" protest outside of the White House, which saw him deliver a fiery speech accusing Israel of "mass murder," "genocide," and "ethnic cleansing."'

    'The anti-Semitic display comes as Bowman faces a primary challenge driven in part by his hostility toward Israel. In addition to his November speech, Bowman has said both Israel and Hamas are to blame for Oct. 7.'
     
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    THE ENEMY WITHIN: U.N. Aid Agency Investigates Claim That Some Workers Were Involved in Oct. 7 Attack: The United States temporarily cut off aid to UNRWA, the agency that aids Palestinians, citing allegations that 12 of its workers were involved in the Hamas-led assault.

    https://archive.ph/j9Syu

    'The United Nations on Friday fired 12 of its employees in Gaza and began an investigation of them after charges by Israel that they had helped plan and participated in the Oct. 7 terrorist assault that left 1,400 Israelis dead or captured.'

    They need to be tried for war crimes.
     
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    No just the US Left, but the Global Left

    The Shameful and Strange Ruling Against Israel at the ICJ; Netanyahu: "Vile"

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    Vile.

    'In the war launched by Hamas and Gazans against Israel on October 7, only one side has publicly and repeatedly promised genocidal extinction to the other. The International Court of Justice has, predictably, decided that the target of that genocidal ambition has to answer for its self-defense.'

    'Weirdly, though, the ICJ decided to creep up on that position, demanding that Israel preserve ‘evidence’ of its genocidal actions while supplying more aid to their enemies at war:'

    'Hamas and Gaza invaded southern Israel on October 7th in violation of an existing cease-fire. That in itself is perfidy as well as a legitimate cassus belli. Israel formally declared war at that point and has been operating under the rules of war since that time. Hamas has taken every opportunity to violate those rules by engaging in offensive operations out of uniform, hiding military assets and operations within civilian structures, and deliberately targeting unarmed civilians for both murder and widespread rape and pillaging. The ICJ barely notices these crimes, and has nothing to say at all about promises by Hamas to keep repeating the October 7 massacres until Israel is destroyed.'

    'That brings us to the separate but related issue of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) operations before October 7. Even though they have signed numerous cease-fires, both organizations routinely fire unguided rockets and missiles at Israeli civilian populations, and have for the past 17 years. They launch those rockets near civilian infrastructure to goad Israel into creating civilian casualties. These are crimes under the rules of war and makes the perfidious party responsible for all casualties. It also demonstrates that Hamas and PIJ are the parties engaged in genocide, not Israel, which has had to spend a fortune on its Iron Dome defense system to minimize civilian deaths from constant terror attacks from Gaza.'

    'The ICJ is trying the wrong party in this war. But because it’s an adjunct of the United Nations, the ICJ’s anti-Israel bias is what drove this ruling, not “justice,” and serves as just another reminder of the uselessness of the UN and the ICJ. Israel’s response today should be … say, what is the Hebrew for “kiss my ass”?' לנשק לי את התחת

    Hopefully the deal keeps coming together to implement a two state solution with the Palestinians under the supervision of the Jordan and Saudi Arabia who will de-Hamasize them, join Arab and Israeli forces to break the encirclement by Iran proxies.
     
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    My theory here is the anti america crowd...ANTIFA/BLM who just wish to bitch and moan and see the America fall apart have latched onto the Palestine thing.
     
  18. Zorro

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    Whatever the case, the same folks that hate us, hate the Jews.
    The atrocities they applauded on 10/6 against the Jews?
    They would applaud just as hard if someone tried to do that with us, except we're all armed.
    And that's why they hate the 2nd amendment, because it works to prevent that that level of vulnerability toward those that wish you unspeakable harm.

    How About a Ceasefire for Chicago, Mayor Johnson?

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    'Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson called for a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war on Thursday. He was immediately taken to task on social media.'

    'Self awareness is hard and Mayor Johnson is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Chicago is well-known for its crime rate, including a high rate of shootings. It is a city known for its murder rate.'

    And that's why they want the ability to control speech on Social Media.

    'Netanyahu should call for a ceasefire in Chicago'

    'Happy he’s fixed things locally and he can focus on problems elsewhere'

    I wonder of the Hamas Thugs will riot during the Chicago DNC Convention?
     
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    The Jews I've known all my life have all been keenly aware of their vulnerability. They're not surprised by socialist leftwingers disliking Jews. They also know a lot of your rightwing buddies are antisemites.
    A lot of Israelis are unhappy with Netanyahu.

    "Only 15% of Israelis want Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to stay in office after the war on Hamas in Gaza ends, though many more still support his strategy of crushing the militants in the Palestinian enclave, according to a poll published on Tuesday."

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/only-15-israelis-want-netanyahu-keep-job-after-gaza-war-poll-finds-2024-01-02/
     
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    So, you figure these folks don't like MAGA...?


    This is crap. No one is coming to take away your rights.

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    Implying liberals are planning to do you "unspeakable harm?" Really?
    Why would they riot during the DNC when Republicans are more supportive of Netanyahu?
     
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    Rather than spend your time dividing Jews based on your politics, why don't you say what you think Israel should do.
     
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    Please name the terrorists outside of Palestine that you are talking about. And disagreeing with you does not count as "terrorism"
     
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    I would say the Jews being attacked all over the country by pro hamas anti Semites counts as terrorism.

    Does this count as terrorism?

    Radical protesters threaten to burn homes of mourners leaving Henry Kissinger memorial service: video

    A pair of mourners leaving a memorial service for Henry Kissinger on the Upper East Side were viciously harassed by a group of deranged radicals, according to video footage.

    Six radicals trailed an unidentified man and woman who had paid their respects to the former secretary of state at Temple Emanu-El on East 65th Street, waving signs that read “F–k Kissinger” and throwing water at the couple as they walked up Fifth Avenue, a shocking clip posted on X by FreedomNews.TV shows.

    “You’ll burn in hell, forever,” one of the far-left zealots shouted at the couple, who partly blocked their faces with an umbrella, while another heckler threatened, “And we will burn your homes, too.”

    https://nypost.com/2024/01/27/metro/protesters-harass-mourners-leaving-kissinger-memorial/
     
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    I'm just not into the whole double-standard thing you've got going on here. Trump supporters issue death threats daily and you have no comment about that.
     
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    You asked me to name pro hamas terrorists, I did, and then you deflect to Trump while accusing me of double standards. You can't even bring yourself to condemn terrorists who throw water on mourners and then threaten to burn their houses down. Do you donate money to Rashida Tlaib?
     
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