The state is now buying guns for Teachers

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt the normal teachers in the classroom will be carrying a gun all the time. They will probably keep it in some locked box.

    There might be some school security officer who will carry a gun, but that is only a maybe, and probably would not even be at all schools.
     
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    Unfortunately , it seems that things have not progressed all that much since that time long ago. Yet , they certainly should have with more evolved ideas and thinking and problem solving.
     
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    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    How sad that this nation is so violence prone. It seems that violence including gun violence are an integrated part of the country's culture.

    Why on earth would anyone carry a weapon in their daily life?? Unless they live in a very violent nation and feel they HAVE to protect themselves with weapons.

    It is a sad commentary on the entire society. Seems that fear is the motivating emotion for all this "self protection" in a violent country.

    What next?? Maybe have physicians and nurses carry weapons as they care for patients.?? ( fortunately hospitals are smart enough to hire security )
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you consider how many guns -and concealed carriers- there are in this nation, relative to how much gun crime there is, you'll see that very little of our violence is associated with guns, and far fewer of our guns are associated with violence ...relatively speaking. Self defense is 'violence' in the same sense that surgery is 'harmful.' Technically, yes it is, but with a constructive and mostly beneficial intention and effect. I've never had to use my firearm to defend myself. However, violent crime where I live is FAR below the national average, and its not unreasonable to assume this has something to do with the fact that its very well known that guns are VERY common here. This is voluntary collectivism (imo). I participate in civil defense by being prepared to defend not only myself but also my neighbors in the event of overt violence, and many of them the same. This makes the commission of violence where I live a far riskier prospect for the perpetrator, and thus they prefer to avoid engaging in violence here.

    It would be great if we could achieve the same in our schools.
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee, my parents grew up in a small town in Nebraska where every single kid in the entire school had their own gun. Not a single shooting and not a single murder. In high trust communities, gun violence is nonexistent.

    Police Activity documents 1.7 thousand police shootings. In nearly every encounter in which the perp has a gun, he has it ILLEGALY as he is a convicted felon. In some of the videos, the perp engages in a gunfight with cops because he knows he will go back to jail because he is a convicted felon with a gun. The absolute through line is that in nearly every single one of the videos, the perp was a convicted felon who had absolutely no business being out on the street. You are right, it is shameful that progressive leadership in blue cities absolutely refuses to put sadistic predators in prison. Progressive "do-gooders" let them out to kill and predate on innocent people until they are killed in a hail of bullets or caught and released again. Progressives create the problem by refusing to enforce the law and then somehow blame honest law abiding conservative citizens living in safe high trust communities. It is a clown world where far too people buy into the circus act of the progressive MSM. There isn't a single shred of reality in it.


    https://www.youtube.com/@PoliceActivity/videos
     
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  6. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At yes, we have now moved to the “guns are more important than bodily autonomy for women” side of the argument

    You people never fail to impress
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    you missed the point. how many times does someone need to exercise "their right to an abortion"?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many times do you need to exercise your right to roll play with a gun?

    Bodily autonomy shouldn’t be revoked after a certain number of times if that is what you are asking.

    Should a man be medically prevented from reproducing after a certain number?
     
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    when I see crap like that, it proves what I have been saying for decades. It proves that the anti gun attitudes of leftists is usually based on a cultural revulsion. what a silly way of denigrating the right.

    No one is "revoking bodily autonomy" and some on the abortion any time any place at any time in the term of the pregnancy ignore there is another body in play. and I suspect that if more women actually respected their own bodily autonomy there would not be so many abortions for convenience

    man who constantly reproduce and fail to provide for the upbringing of their offspring ought to face severe sanctions
     
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    FYI, the police and the US military requires firearm training. !!!!!

    I guess you are smarter than all them.
     
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    oh FFS

    The state is buying guns for teachers, and there is NO mandatory training required. You think thats a good thing ?

    The state just took public school funding and gave it to private schools. Color me shocked, but 80% of that money went to kids ALREADY in private school. The republican legislature then started banning books. We have 60 schools, and we have 2 librarians, but thats OK because they are banning all the books. They cut public school teacher pay and couple years back, the average is$40k per year, but with a PHD you can make $70k…………$70K with a PHD!!! But somehow they have $3 MILLION for the gun program…….

    JFC the right in this country is trying to destroy education, because the dumber the electorate, the more repubs they elect
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So now we will just put the guns in the schools, and not require any training for the teachers. Guess you didnt read that part.

    Cant wait until some kid gets a gun off of a teacher and shoots up the school and more kids die….
     
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    I really don’t care

    When you tell a person they have lost the ability to make their own medical decisions and will be put through a major medical procedure with risk of permanent damage or death — against their will — that is absolutely removing their bodily autonomy.

    So you would be fine with sterilizing these men then, correct?
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you been thru that ? I have….it’s a JOKE. The class is 2 HOURS……

    yep, its all about the border…….
     
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    I would rather that the public not be forced to be taxed for irresponsible breeding
     
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    where do you get this NO TRAINING?

    I realize that many on the left don't understand guns, don't own guns but who do you think -when it comes to teachers-are going to actually sign up for this? left wing gun fearing ones, or conservative teachers who own guns and aren't afraid of them?
     
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    Did you read that is NOT REQUIRED……

    But lets go with, they will be trained: Its a 2 hour class that i have been thru, and its a *******n joke.

    But dont worry, we’re putting the guns IN the schools now, so their wont be any worries about kids bringing them thru the metal detectors, their already in there.

    We pay school teachers in Iowas slave wages, and now you think THEY should be the police to ?
     
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    BANNING BOOKS? you mean the GOP says adults and children cannot order books on Amazon or go to a book store and buy them? That kids cannot read stuff on the net

    the "education" many public schools are foisting on kids revolves around crap like DEI, and trying to decide what public lavatory a kid should use.
     
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    “Guns don't kill people, people do”…..right

    Guns dont save people, PEOPLE do !!!!

    Now teachers are supposed to be cops, fireman, military, and everything else becasue now we put a gun in their hands ?

    JFC
     
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    what really bothers you? your claim that these teachers wont be trained (we have heard the same thing for years about "constitutional carry" or shall issue CCW permits and all the dire predictions have failed to materialize) or that guns might be used to stop school shootings?
     
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    Teacher carrying guns is a bad idea from the word go.

    Guns dont save people, people save people….
     
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    "Thank you Iowa!"
    signed, American gun manufacturers
    The extremists at both ends are wielding too much power.
    I am a teacher working at a county high school, and I do not like this idea.
     
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    You don’t answer the question — second time one was dodged.

    So you don’t want to be taxed for irresponsible breeding but your party is forcing women that do not have the means to travel to another state for an abortion (aka poor) to have a child each time they get pregnant?

    That makes perfect sense
     
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    I don't support bans on abortions but I also don't believe it is a constitutional right

    there is no rational basis to ban abortions prior to objective viability or in cases of rape or medical necessity
     
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    Without bodily autonomy I would argue all other rights are meaningless.

    For the record I don’t support gun bans either.
     

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