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Trump used $58 million from the donor to pay his legal fees

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  1. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, this is why the defamation suits that were filed against the NYT, WaPo, etc listed the Trump campaign as the plaintiff (as opposed to Trump himself). I hope all the Trump supporters enjoy watching Trump blow their contributions on fivolous suits.
     
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  2. WillReadmore

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    So, you haven't even bothered to read about the case!!!

    Please come back AFTER you know what's going on.
     
    WillReadmore, Sep 8, 2020
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  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NO.
     
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    There is no case. There is no case against the President...the FEC has found nothing to charge him on. This is a NY Times piece
     
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    My claim is that if you spend tax deferred dollars on a personal issue (as Trump has been found guility of doing on multiple occasions in the past) that is a federal crime.

    And, there is a charge that Trump spent $58M of his campaign funds on personal issues - which qualifies.

    Agreed?
     
    WillReadmore, Sep 8, 2020
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    I did and now we KNOW that your spouting off yet again. Thanks for allowing me not to waste anymore time on your wild claims.
     
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    Fake news.
     
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  8. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You sure you know where Donald Trump ends, and where Donald Trump campaign begins? Set us, Deplorables, straight?
     
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  9. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    actual it was libel....and the NYT and Washington Post printing false stories about the campaigns, candiate impacts the campaign
     
    struth, Sep 8, 2020
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    struth Well-Known Member

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    Where has he been found guilty of this?

    The NY Times is claiming the campaign fighting an unConstitutional California law that required the Presidential candiate to release his tax returns, personally benefited Trump....sure that maybe true...but it also very much benefited the campaign, and any future nominee. Things can benefit the person running, and the campaign at the same time..and frankly often do
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We will certainly enjoy watching Trump blow away their competitors :D
     
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    It doesn't matter how much was personal.

    ANY use of our tax dollars for personal use is a federal crime. And, tax free donations are in part our tax dollars.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/515249-trum
     
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    Between this and the Dejoy news(along with the Bannon case). It's clear that we have a problem in the WH, were the funds really withheld or a better question to ask is if they were misdirected?

    I have to agree with Bolton that the House botched impeachment and could've made a stronger case.
     
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    No thanks needed Mr. President, just keep appointed those judges.
     
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    Its political persecution **** that. SDNY has been on his ass since he fired Phreet ( spelling?) Hilarys pick for AG....
     
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  16. WillReadmore

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    "Found guilty" would mean that a court case had taken place. I'm sure you are aware that it hasn't reached that stage.

    The item you mention is definitely NOT the only use the funds are seen as likely supporting.

    Simply claiming that anything that defends Trump's acts is beneficial to his campaign is NOT adequate justification.
     
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    Trump crimes are real.

    Trump was ordered to pay $2 Million dollar for stealing thru " Trump Foundation Charity" intended for Veterans
     
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    State cases have dragged out because THAT is what Trump wanted to happen.

    Claiming persecution is ridiculous.
     
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    Wait, but you said he was found guilty....

    So provide me with other times....

    I didn't say anything.....but certainly the FEC hasn't found anything yet...hence why there is no case.
     
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    Because the campaign fought them? Sorry....that's just silly....folks are allowed to fight cases...it's hardly the party's fault of the Court's scheduling

    and the SDNY isn't the State...it's the Federal District
     
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    If he's guilty of a crime then charge him, it's that simple.
     
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  23. WillReadmore

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    Bolton believes the House should have pursued the illegally ignored subpoenas through the courts.

    However, in that case the impeachment would STILL be going on. There is no chance it could have been worked through the courts all the way to the supremes and then cause the investigation to be able to continue in time for this election.

    And, holding an impeachment within a couple months of an election would be seen as a gross abuse.

    Let's face it: impeachment is entirely political, so more proof of Trump's guilt than the ample proof available would not have turned the votes of any GOP senator.

    If Bolton is right, it is because Trump's neutering of the checks and balances of our constitution might be the more lasting crime.

    That was a major hit by Trump on the very foundation of how our system of federal government was designed.

    Our system of checks and balances was one of the topmost pieces of brilliance our system was noted for.

    One could seriously believe that the defeat of that system is more important than all the crimes that were being investigated. In fact, the weakness of our system of checks and balances is a KEY reason that we work to prevent other new governments from modeling our own. That is, without serious support of checks and balances, a government can (and quite possibly will) become a dictatorship.

    Yet, we now have an executive branch that is free to say FU to all oversight!
     
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    LOL!!!

    Yes, Trump WAS guilty. The exact nature of his crime is not as easily described as "Trump stole from vets".

    But, he absoltuely WAS guilty of the crime that has often been described as the above.

    This is just one of several cases where Trump has abused both tax exempt donation law and campaign finance law, this time explicitly duping his donors.
     
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    I did not say he was found guilty in the case of the $58M.

    He has been found guilty of this kind of crime in the past. They aren't too easy to search for, as there are so many issues with Trump's use of dollars from various sources.

    But, here's one:
    https://www.politico.com/states/flo...ago-club-legal-dispute-with-palm-beach-105634
     
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