Trump used $58 million from the donor to pay his legal fees

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Huh? Each state decides independently on how they choose how to vote. There's no such thing as a national election in this country. Who cares what California and Utah do?
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Dollars donated were give as tax free donations.

    In other words, US income tax dollars got diverted to these purposes.

    Then, the funds are claimed to have been used for purposes that did not warrant tax free status.

    That is misappropriation of US income tax dollars.
     
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    Misfire - lol!
     
  4. struth

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    not sure how your post relates to mine. each campaign should care...because they have to be on the ballot there
     
  5. struth

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    the vets got their money..that wasn’t for personal use

    nor was it criminal as you have suggested
     
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  6. struth

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    agreed but that hasn’t happened
     
  7. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Any misappropriation of federal tax dollars is a crime.

    Whether the vets got money isn't the issue. People donated under false pretenses and federal revenue was misappropriated.

    And, that was only one case.
     
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    Why are you defending this pattern of behavior toward our tax exempt donations?

    Is this really the way you want our government to run?
     
  9. Golem

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    It has to do exactly what I said. People usually donate money to a political party to elect a candidate or candidates from that party. That usually means advertising, organization, communication, ... But Trump donors are now in this strange situation in which what they are contributing to is to keep a candidate and his Mafia Family out of prison.

    Arkanis commented on how Trump bragged about not needing contributions for his campaign. I added that he hadn't bragged about not needing contribution for their criminal defense.

    You asked, I answered....
     
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    Trump has spent his entire life, except for his reality show, taking other people's money. From his father to banks, stiffing people at will, diverting charitable donations, bankrupting businesses, cheating students, lying, stealing and cheating his way through life. And bragging about it. I'll never understand why Trump didn't just stick to TV. I think he sucks at it, but it's the only time in his pathetic, dishonorable life that he ever earned a dime.

    When someone shows you who he is, believe him.
     
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  11. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You said something about universal, which means the entire universe. It's not even a globe issue, let alone a single country's issue. It's, what, four states? Nothing burger at table 5!
     
  12. struth

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    sigh....obvously you have not been paying attention to the issue
     
  13. struth

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    They also donate to pay for legal fee that a campaign might have....in this case, well in 2016, the left used an "insurance policy" that was Obama's DOJ, to investigate the campaign on trumped up charges the Obama admin already knew didn't exist...yes the campaign has a right to defend itself from those charges.

    He has not had to mount a criminal defense.
     
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    I have seen no proof the campaign did anything wrong here...there is no case against them the FEC hasn't claimed anything...there is nothing to defend.
     
  15. struth

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    huh? that's simply untrue...Govt typically spends money unwisely.

    and Federal Tax dollars were not used in this donation to Vets...the money was raised by his charity in 2016....as part of his campaign in Iowa, then given to his campaign to give to the Vets.....the Judge said, the charity should have actually given it out instead. THe money got to where it was going...
     
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    huh? Govt doesn't run campaigns or charities
     
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    Who's Obama?

    I'm talking about Trump.

    Really? Oh... what a revelation. Hey fellas! Did you know we actually live in a country where criminals have a right to defend themselves against charges?

    Of course, that probably costs money. And, quoting another post I saw on this thread ... Trump "never said that he wouldn't be so criminal that he would need those campaign contributions for his legal fees." (can't recall who wrote it)

    And now, as I already said, we have donors paying, not to promote a candidate, but to keep that candidate and his Mafia family out of prison.

    As a side note, I know exactly what you're saying. But I have no interest in giving any credibility or value to QAnon "Deep State" Conspiracy Theories.
     
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  18. struth

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    1) Well, actually the topic is the Campaign, I was just highlighting why the Campaign was paying for the legal defense...because they were being investigated.

    2) people aren't criminals in the United States simply based on accusations and investigations.....and can defend themselves....as the Campaign did in this case, and as the investigation found they weren't. Mueller, found no conspiracy....the real shame was that the Obama Admin knew that back in 2016, but the left still pushed the shame investigation wasting millions in taxpayer money
     
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    Which is exactly what I said.

    That's right. they are criminals based on the fact that they committed crimes.

    "Conspiracy"? That's not true but... "conspiracy" is a misdemeanor. Who cares about conspiracy. I'm talking about felonies that Mueller proved. If we were to only consider the obstruction he committed intended to hide his campaign's collusion with Russia, that Mueller demonstrated, Trump could be sentenced to 80 years. On that alone.

    Trumpists focus on conspiracy because it's the least of all his crimes. Both in the Mueller Report and on the Republican Senate Report there are many instances of conspiracy. But why would anybody bother with that when they found crimes that would make many dictators blush.

    And, of course, then you go on about this O'Bama guy.... I understand. Given the above trying to change the subject is definitely your best bet.
     
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    They aren't criminals because they have not been convicted of any crimes.

    No conspiracy to commit a felony, is a felony....Mueller proved the Campaign didn't do it.

    I am not changing the subject, the Obama guy, was part of the reason the hoax Mueller probe was started, which required the campaign to spend as much as they did on legal fees, defending itself from the baseless accusations.
     
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    Trump wanted lawsuits since his first day in office from SDNY and the same AG's over and over again?
     
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    Trump had $30M more cash in hand than biden at the beginning of August
     
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    Perhaps not. It's working in my state, just fine. That's all I care about. How other states decide their choice is up to them. The states can pretty much decide which people to send to EC any way they want.

    So, it's a giant nothing burger, IMO.
     
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    My business has been to court twice. I have deducted the legal fees both times with full approval of my CPA.
     
  25. struth

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    My state hasn't expanded Absentee Ballots, other then to allow people that have Chinese Virus fears to get it.

    They haven't done the Universial route....thankfully....
     

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