Trump used $58 million from the donor to pay his legal fees

The cases in question are those that are personal.

Suggesting that anything that is personal to Trump allows him to spend untaxed campaign dollars is nonsense.

 

The article on the OP

"In addition, the president and campaign associates hired lawyers to aid staff and family members — including Donald Trump Jr. and son-in-law Jared Kushner — when they were targeted in Russia and Ukraine probes"​

Not that I know of. I don't think Biden has a son or son-in-law involved in extorting a foreign government to obtain illegal help to get Trump reelected.

 

I would have countered that in turn, we had 'oversight' that was broader in scope and in many regards unnecessary. Look at what drew me to your side: A consistent sequence of events showing one thing: Abuse of funds. There's no Ruskies here, no greater conspiracy. Just sadly atypical government corruption. If more think like me, you'll be surprised that what brings Trump down is not the conspiracy of a lifetime but a very basic failing in his character.

 

Sounds like that benefitted Jr and Kushner not the President.....not sure how they were related to the Ukraine probe...but as far as the Russian probe...certainly the campaign should pay, they were working for the campaign and it was the campaign being investigated

No Hunter merely got the money from the corrupt Ukraine Gas company, his dad simply extorted the Govt to shut down the corruption probe of the company

 

Believing the Trump Spin ?

The Judge ruled that Trump was ordered to pay $2 Million dollars to 8 charities because he " misappropriated funds " from his " Foundation "

he said he would use for Veterans.

 

Ok....which are?

I never suggest that anything that is personal to Trump allows him to do that. Likewise it's nonsense to suggest that if something benefits him personally it can't also benefit the campaign...

 

I know not this case, but you said there were past cases....so me where...that link has nothing to do with a campaign...it's his personal charity, that donated to help settle a civil lawsuit....did Fl bring a case? Was he convicted? You said he was found guilty...show me

 

The cases have to do with misappropriation of tax free donations.

The common thread is that pattern of abuse - Trump sees these tax free donations as funds he can use for personal benefit that is outside of the reason for their tax status.

 

You don't think that keeping his son and son-in-law out of prison benefits the President? Amazing as some might think, I do see your point of view. Trump probably cares more about his re-election than about his son and son in law. But it just kinda... wouldn't "look" right.

You asked for criminal... you got criminal.

 

Is that all???

This must be so frustrating for leftists... Despite almost complete control of print, tv, and internet media they can't get any of this nonsense to stick. When they put it out you can hear the collective yawn of the people. Mainstream Media RIP.

 

You are mistaken.

This news is joyful.

The Trumpsters are sending millions $ to Trump so he can challenge the court order to provide his tax returns.

Voters are funding a President so he can be less transparent.

The irony is at its height.

 

He did no such thing. His charitable fundraising and politics were intertwined and libs sued. Too bad because it made Trump stop his philantropic efforts that distributed approximately $19 million, including $8.25 million of his own money, to hundreds of charitable organizations.

 

OK. But, I was just addresing your Bolton comment, as there were reasons for Bolton saying what he said that I do think may have some legitimacy as per my post - though I don't have access to Bolton's mind, obviously.

Due to the time proximity to the November elections (and the primaries and other campaigning realities) congress could not have both pursued Trump's illegal acts against subpoenas AND the crimes Trump was clearly guilty of.

This is serious. Trump proved that our checks and balances are worthless to a leader willing to brazenly run out the clock.

I hope the OP case is atypical, of course. But, I would point out that Trump has misappropriated tax exempt donations on several occassions where he has been caught. So, it hasn't been atypical in that respect.

In the OP case, our federal tax dollars were redirected for Trump's personal use according to those who watch and investigate this kind of spending.

I do see that as serious - beyond just the scuzz fator. But, probably not as serious as the gutting of our constitutional checks and balances.

 

Libs have zero rights to see Trumps taxes. Zero.

 

All true.

Except that I don't find "joy" in that. It's just more of the USA accepting that a US president may criminally use our government for his personal gain.

 

So keep sending money to Trump.

He needs it to continue the fight.

 

i’ve not seen where he was convicted of any crime. you said he was. Moreover there is no case again trump correctly

 

Well, THAT's certainly not true in general, so I don't know what the heck you're talking about.

Congress does have the right to review tax returns. There is nothing that exempts the president from that.

 

It's an additional element that shows Trump's dishonest behavior and it's going to mobilize more people with integrity.

 

sure but what does that have to do with anything? the campaign was being invested and cleared

you’ve not given me any criminal convictions

 

Spending dollars to defend Trump in various court cases, etc., may well benefit his campaign.

BUT that doesn't make such expenditures legal campaign expenditures.

 

You have to be careful with the "cleared" thing.

The issue is what tax free donations may be spent on.

Spending on some legal defense for a Trump personal issue is illegal regardless of whether Trump prevails.

 

The cases in question all involve use of tax free donations. That's the common thread. Trump has repeatedly misappropriated funds from accounts that give donors tax exemption.

In the Vets case, there was both the campaign AND a Trump charity involved.

 

It's absolutely true that Trump has enured us as a nation to behavior that would have gotten ANY past president impeached in a heartbeat.

We know longer seem to care whether the president is lying, is committing financial crime, is ignoring Russian as they pay to have our troops murdered, is crushing our constitutional checks and balances, is ignoring the health and welfare of our citizenry, is fanning the flames of white supremacy, etc., etc., etc.

Trump was right. He probably COULD walk outside his sleazy hotel and shoot someone in broad daylight.

This is the destruction of America and every single thing we stand for, happening in real time.

And, half of America can only yawn!

 

ahhh no

TDS getting to you?