Trump used $58 million from the donor to pay his legal fees

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    People donate to a Campaign to work the campaign...that includes all you said, and legal fees and complaince fees as well. Who's suppose to pay for a Campaign if it's being investigated, unjusticely or not? I would say the Campaign should.
     
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    Not surprising (in the least).

    Grifters gonna Grift. Trump being Trump. Etc...

    [​IMG]...
     
  3. struth

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    The title of the OP is fake.....these aren't Trump's personal legal fees...but the Campaigns.....
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    A person becomes a criminal when they commit a crime. When they are convicted they become "convicted criminals"

    You mean the one that has so far produced 37 indictments or guilty pleas and 199 charges (and counting)?

    That "hoax" Mueller probe?

    Hilarious!
     
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    Whether our govt. spends moeny wisely is absolutely irrelevant.

    Tax free donations are a case of the govenment forgiving taxes on the grounds that the qualified organization is a valid use of those tax dollars. Beyond that, misappropriation is an offense against donors.

    When those tax dollars are misappropriated, it is an offense that includes our tax dollars, as the inappropriate use was not part of the deal.

    Again, Trump has misappropriated tax advantaged donations on several occasions - this is a pattern, not a one time event.
     
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    Our governmne DOES run our system of taxation.

    When revenue is misappropriated, I have to pay more taxes to make up the difference.
     
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    Thread win. End.
     
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  8. struth

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    But you have to actually have commited a crime....the Russian Hoax, which was started by Obamagate, found none....so not sure what you are talking about....and frankly your logic is dangerous....and Stalinist, Hitlerist thinking....scary stuff my friend...and not welcome in a free society.

    Indictments mean nothing.....he got 1 guy I think with something related to the campaign, and nothing about a Russian conspiracy....hopefully not counting...because Mueller said it was done...under oath....and said there was no Conspiracy....and nobody impacted his investigation....

    yes it was a Hoax, because the Obama admin knew in 2016 there was no conspiracy...and Comey, Chapper and Brennen all testified to that much
     
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    Then why do you keep talking about it?

    It's not the Feds money

    Misappropriated funds for charties happens....it's not usually criminal.....and you have shown me nothing that highlights this story is criminal or anything Trump has done before has been criminal....

    Making false accusations can be criminal....just FYI
     
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    Please reread my post. He wanted to drag out the cases.

    Trump's strategy has been centered on running out the clock.
     
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    Sure..our Govt taxes, they love taxes, and the Dems really love taxes....but we aren't talking about taxes here

    No you don't...that's just silly.

    The Govt doesn't own what I earn...I earn it...and I'm free to spend it how I want...you are starting with this silly concept that the Govt owns the earnings first....that's just sad ....very socialist...but said.

    But we are getting away from teh point of the thread....show me where the Campaign didn't anything illegal? Has the FEC brought any complaints? I mean I know the Obama.Biden campaign had to pay the largest fine in FEC history for their illegal donors....forgieng donors...but show me a case against the Trump Campaign?
     
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    In your case, legal defense of your business can usually be considered a cost of doing business, thus not taxed.

    If I make tax free donations that are claimed by the foundation to be used to benefit the VA I expect that is how the money will be used. And, the reason that the donations are tax free is that the foundation qualified that use with the federal government to obtain that tax advantaged status. If the money is spent in some other way, that is a misappropriation of those funds. And, those funds include dollars the US would have collected in taxes. So, it can be considered a serious federal crime.

    This is the kind of crime that caused the courts to terminate Trump's charitable organization.
     
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    You're just WAY confused here.

    There is NO civilization that has ever run without requiring contributions of those within the civilization.

    So, are you really saying that only the left wing favors civilization?? I would doubt that pretty strongly!!

    The goernment does own a percent of what you earn. It is called "tax".
     
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    Yep! Which they did.

    Anyway... the point is that Trump donors are now spending money in the legal fees of the Trump mafia family and their minions. It's what they get for supporting a criminal.
     
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    Trump is bought and paid for, big money doesn't care how he spends it
     
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    I mean, I know a lot of people don't understand things....but this is just silly
     
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    1) how?
    2) agreed...I don't mind paying taxes
    3)No didn't say that at all
    4) They own nothing that I earned. It is a cost I willing to pay....not something they own...we live in a free society....it is by my grace, and the grace of my fellow taxpayers Govt exist.
     
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    When? Show me the convictions?

    You re logic is scary...very left wing....but thank God we have a Constitution to protect us from views like yours.
     
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    Who said anything about "convictions"? Are you ok?
     
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    and that is the problem...folks like yourself call people guilty of crimes...when they haven't been convicted

    Thank you for highlighting we don't want that sort of life in America.....we have Due Process here.

    Don't vote for anyone Golem supports.
     
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    No, you do owe that.

    It is the cost of living in the USA, enjoying the massive benefits of so doing.

    As a citizen, you do get to have a say at election time. But, when the bill for living here is set, it is not some sort of call for donations - it is a requirement.
     
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    Did you not read my post? I said people are criminals when they commit a crime. They become convicted criminals when they are convicted.

    If you refuse to read my posts, the least you could do is read the dictionary.

    There is ample proof that Trump is a criminal. And I have shown it many times.
     
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    Is there any accusations that Trump or anyone involved hasn't paid the tax share they owe?

    I am not sure what you mean?
     
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    Well...you are just wrong....sadly...tragically wrong....not in the USA...
     
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    You aren't tracking along here.

    You can reread what I've said.
     

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