U.S. army nut job murders 16 innocent Afghans

That assumption was the point of this thread.

 

Um, I see that...

that's very obvious...

However, my point is, why make any assumption about that?

It's pretty irrelevant to the situation at hand...

 

Thanks for another idiotic post, GOPHangover. Just how much are you willing to bet and what odds are you giving, fool.

 

To expose the war mongering bigot haters that politicize war for profit.

 

Everyone is aware of their existence...

But, that doesn't guaranteee that the idiot who went on this killing spree was of any particular political stance...

 

I've never understood the affiliation between political leanings and a criminal act.

It's like saying, he was a Boston Red Sox fan therefore all Red Sox fans want to sneak off of a FOB and murder innocent indigents.

A poltically motivated action, like say an assasination, yes the politics motivated that person...but a lone nut like this soldier...honestly what difference does make who he voted for?

So an Obama bumper sticker on his car is the causation? or an NRA bumper sticker?

It's a baseless accusation.

Now what caused the guy to go off the deep end is probably a compendium of causes.. the stressors of multiple deployments, maybe his girl friend cheated on him and sent him a "Dear John" letter....who knows. He's a nut and if he's guilty put a needle in his arm and call it a day. Who he voted for has no bearing in the discussion. Politicizing a criminal act is bad form unless the act itself was a politiical statement. Mental illness like this transcends political affiliations.

 

Exactly...

It could have been any number of things...

Political affiliation is almost certainly not one of them...

 

Like the nut job in Sweden, that's what I think happened. Republicanism is a mental illness.

Almost certainly? Well you're entitled to your to your guess too. We'll see. Like I said, the laundry will be hung out to dry. No matter if he's a right-winger or a lefty, that ideology will try to keep it secret. Thank goodness for the freedom of information act.

 

Being a Republican is no more a mental illness than being a Democrat...

And people from both sides sound stupid when they try to say it is...

FOIA wouldn't tell you anything about the shooter's political affiliation, unless that becomes a key reason why he did it, which, I can almost guarantee you, is not gonna happen...

 

Congratulations on being American.

 

Ha ha, ya missed me. I'm an independent.

There's a lot of people like me that can "almost guarantee" you that IS the reason he did it, and will demand it be made public. It's time to expose the haters.

 

I didn't say you were on either side...

Try again...

The chances of him shooting up innocent civilians solely because he was a Republican are almost slim to none...

And FOIA will do nothing to help you find out his political affiliation...

 

The 16 nut jobs busted for trying to kill members of congress, cops and presidents have already been exposed as evangelical right-wing haters. Believe me, that nut job will be exposed too.

 

It is hard enough to accomplish anything there when you are doing everything right. Instead, we are doing the worst things imaginable. Time to get the hell out because we are our own worst enemy right now.

 

We lose Manas AB in 2014; it's a vital transit base for supplies and personnel into Afghanistan.

There's some discussion of polar routing flights to compensate...but I'm in agreement, the loss of Manas plus this latest installment of yet another public relations' nightmare = time to drawdown.

USMC General Mattis said it best regarding operations in Iraq, "do no harm." Quite frankly we're doing more harm by staying in Afghanistan.

 

This was shocking news to me. It would have made more sense had he unloaded on a mob of adults violently protesting the Koran burnings, whom he may have held accountable for the recent murders of several of our military personnel. But women and children in their homes?.....I'd like to hear what he has to say about it.

 

You lot were never going to win there anyway as the Taliban are not going anywhere,they live there,it is their country and just like the Russians before,you lot will runaway after failing yet again to defeat what is a very small basic militia.

 

What are you talking about? You "bet" he was a conservative, then just accept the idea as fact, and expect everyone else to do the same? You are a troll.

How dare you make me defend conservatives.

 

If "winning" was just beating the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the Taliban and al Qaeda we were victorious in slapping them around. That is not what the government wanted though. They wanted the military to rebuild Afghanistan, which is not our mission. That responsibility should be granted to the State Department, which was nowhere to be found.

Failing to defeat them does not fall on ops. It falls on the government failing to consolidate victory and getting sidetracked with Iraq. We can scrap the "hearts and minds" nonsense, put down the kid gloves, and go wipe the slate clean if we need to.

 

You lost,now time to go home.

 

It's a third world (*)(*)(*)(*) hole, and it will always be a third world (*)(*)(*)(*) hole.

 

Never should have been a country. Too many different ethnic groups to vie for influence.

 

Sure thing. Right after we go to your country, and lose there too. Then we'll go home. Would you like that?

 

No problem. I am British. We have nuclear missiles so no chance of an attack by the Americans as they only pick on states which don't.

 

Pretty sad that the U.S. has spent a trillion dollars fighting those "third world" Taliban for over ten years, and haven't come close to winning. The propaganda value for that is enough to make the U.S. look like clowns. How much do you think the Taliban has spent? After Ronnie Raygun gave the Taliban a half billion dollars worth of weapons to terrorize the Russians, Putin is probably giving the Taliban all the weapons they are using against us. Seems like, "what goes around, comes around", huh.