U.S. army nut job murders 16 innocent Afghans

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  1. Neutral

    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    I am a combat vet. I am heading back into it soon enough - not far from wjere (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) bag went off. In fact, that is my sister BDE over there.

    Our job is not to kill - its to be professional Soldiers, to defend the weak and innocent, not butcher them. We are warriors, not murderers. And if you don;t like that? Well, its best you not be over there, because guys like me would not let you outside the wire.

    Better men, disciplined men and women, will carry on the fight. Its victory that matters, and I tried in both sides of the fight in Iraq - and sometimes you cannot kill your way to a solution.

    That is why we train our boys to think, not just pull triggers. And what this guys did was wrong, period.

    That is why we have the Law of Land Warfare, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It will be used.

    Your rationalizing is noted, and irrelevant. No one is going to pat you on the back and consider your support for murder to bravery. Not is they wear a uniform today.
     
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    Neutral New Member Past Donor

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    Try running for office .... and see how hard it really is. Being a complainer never fixed anything, and it set no policy.
     
  3. sweetdaddy620

    sweetdaddy620 New Member

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    Their is only onething you goto war for and it too kill people who are trying too kill you.

    I use too believe in all that we need to help everybody..bullcrap that don't and won't

    Ever help us so eff them....and as far as policy what's that have too do with this

    Our presence is part of the factor of middle east problems

    It don't mean they wont make up a new excuse to kill innocent people

    I don't see where your going with this ....I never once said yo what he did was rite

    Obviously it isn't....with that said if this country wasn't in a constant state of war

    Then maybee this chit wouldn't be happening...another thing murder is ok in war

    As long as you have your govts approval then its alrite

    That is the hypocrisy iam pointing out

    Iraq=Failed .......Afghanistan=failed

    After 9/11 yes. A response was needed as too what degree

    It should have been over after they thru the taliban out

    Now look. @ it vietnam,russian tried it too now look our geniuses in DC

    Bunch of muther luvin. Cowards....granted if. I meet john mccain

    For gidda. About it...that dude is just evil....sun of slut

    Has no honor or respect for our countrymen

    If he wants too go into syria eff

    Go raise your own army and navy fund it and led or STF UP

    I HOPE HE BURNS IN HELL AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO WANNA SEND KIDS OFF 2 DIE

    WHEN, WHY FOR WHAT I DON'T SEE NO MILITARIES TRYING TOO OVERRUN THIS PLACE

    WHAT IS WITH THIS POLICY THAT IS FAILED. WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THIS RIGHT

    AND AS FAR AS U LETTING. ME OUTSIDE THE WIRE. WOW I. DON'T TAKE ORDERS

    THEY CAN'T EVEN. HAVE THE RESPECT TO DECLARE A WAR LET ALONE FIGHT ONE 2 WIN

    SO FOR YOU AN ME, NEVER, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS COUNTRY WILL EVER BENEFIT

    FROM WHAT'S BEEN DONE OVERTHERE...DID WE KILL SOME SOBs yes

    Will they stop trying too kill us never.....we are a force for good

    Please...tryng waiting till somebody wants too overrun your country. Then it might be a force for good

    Like as in good for this country too not be defeated by a real military and government

    Not a bunch of pyschotic criminals cause that's really what they are

    Murdering chit baggs who rightfully so should be sent too meet allah

    Tho this style of warfare isn't going too stop that ever.


    And for the record I did my duty I murdered cause the govt said too,now since I quit working for the govt I. Aint had too murder no more.

    I did the missions I followed the orders,and. What's become of it nothing. Nothing but bad nothing good came from what I did or the others did overthere

    And now all this propaganda over iran ...this is the exact same M.O. they used during the cold war too sell this endless war and assault of terror on the publice

    Too get them in look step as too be so fearful they will believe anything. As long as the govt protects us

    Chit we need protecting from what the govt is doing an has been doing especially too these other nations of this world it is a shame

    Our govt has mucked up so much stuff abroad and people can't figure out why these other countries hate us well you ain't had too live under what thiscountry has done to other nations overseas and if so you'd prolly be a little more understanding

    So keep up the bad work,cause. I don't believe this propagand this govt spews out no more they wrap it all up sadly in patrotism the biggest sin of all

    Tho one day each person will have too account for their deeds here on this earth
    And I for one believe mine weren't justified and shall be punished rightfully so.
     
  4. ian

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    Is this what you consider professional?
    http://www.military.com/news/article/troops-still-embrace-infidel-label.html?ESRC=dod.nl
    I was gobsmacked when I read this, no wonder they hate you.
     
  5. unclebob

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    Neutral,

    You seem like a well adjusted and excellent Soldier. Thank you for your excellent efforts.
     
  6. Iolo

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    bitterweed New Member Past Donor

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    Whoa, fella..Did I say you were? I was directing my post at all of these jerks making judgements on that guy..

    Soldiers are asked to do a job that we can't even begin to comprehend..
     
  8. Iolo

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    All soldiers are asked to do a difficult job. If they murder small children they are not soldiers any more but simple murderers, obviously. Are you entirely nuts?
     
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    Ok my apologize I was on a rant

    I just don't believe our last 100 yrs. Of foreign policy is
    how a free nation should deal with the rest of the world

    And try too wrap it up in blind patrotism
     
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    America is the only country where it is frowned upon to be patriotic, fly the flag, serve in the military.
     
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    sweetdaddy620 New Member

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    The policy an war is the failure not patrotism

    That is healthy for a just cause which hasn't existed for many moons now
    when a constant state of war exist its a failure for freedom an liberty
     
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    This guy snapped. Because of the situation he was forced to endure.

    The (*)(*)(*)(*)ing rules of engagement these military people have been forced to follow is complete bull (*)(*)(*)(*). I'm surprised more haven't snapped.

    The female soldiers forced to wear a headscarf? That would have pushed me over the edge.
     
  13. Iolo

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    Drivel! In a country where everyone is really only after money, you pretend ALL THE TIME to be patriotic, to a ludicrous degree, what with all this saluting flags and swearing Jesus-forbitten oaths and all the rest of it. No other country behaves in this childish fashion. Come of your silly old nonsense!
     
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    Yes, you can.

    One of the hall marks of military service is discipline. There are literally millions of combat veterans, many under the same pressures as this guy. Guess what they do not do? Run out alone in the middle of the night and kill and desecrate 16 innocent people, more than half of which are children.

    If you cannot hold make a judgement about murder? Well, perhaps its best you have never been over there with us. The last thing professional Soldiers need in battle is a moral relativism who rejects the idea of discipline and standards.
     
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    Why? Why are you surprised that the vast majority of our troops are disciplined and responsible?
     
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    I'm curious as to how sneaking off base, and firing live rounds at point blank range into a sleeping child, could conceivably help win a war?

    What this SSG did was endanger the lives of his fellow troops still in country. He's got 3 hots and a cot in Leavenworth awaiting trial while they face the consequences of his actions.

    I don't want to hear the "PTSD," "burden of multiple deployments"..excuses...

    Many soldiers have endured what this person has, and they don't all go sneaking off base on homicidal missions and then have the mental capacity to "lawyer up," after getting caught.
     
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    Ya, excuses like ...why this country needs too continue these failed conflicts

    And continue this failed idealogy of constant war without ever declaring one
     
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    Seems you like these military adventurism and are a good disciplined
    believer in this faith of constant war

    My point being this the same kinda of thing the murderous nutt baggs do
    and they approve tho when the shoes on the other foot

    They get all righteous and indignant about it

    Like all these other pro constant foreign war miliatry an non military
    get their pants all in a wad

    Pls war is murder period has nothing too with anything else too kill is the objective
     
  19. Mushroom

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    Welcome to the "Nation of ME". Where absolutely nothing is your own fault, everything is the fault of somebody else.

    Blame it on President Bush. Blame it on President Obama. Blame it on the UN, NATO, PTSD, flouride in the water, MREs, multiple deployments, TBI, homophobia, and 10,000 other things.

    Personally, I do not care. Do the investigation, then have the trial. And once he is convicted, set the date for his execution and follow through with it.
     
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    Seems like someone hasd no idea what something called logistics is. Do you know how long it will take to reverse the deployment process from a lan locked and geopgrphically isolated ciountry with little or no infastructure? Well, it'll take until about 2014.

    Seems like you just don't know what the hell you are talking about.
     
  21. onalandline

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    Here's some food for thought.........begs the question, "what's our Justice Department and this Administration all about?

    After reading the headlines about the US soldier who shot up Afghanistan civilians, I couldn't help noticing an irony. There is all this clamor to try this guy quickly while emphasizing that he will probably face the death penalty and be executed, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury.

    Yet Major Hassan, who shot up Fort Hood while screaming Allah Akbar, still hasn't stood trial, and they are still debating whether he was insane, even with the clear evidence regarding his motive: slay as many infidels as possible.

    So we have a guy in a war zone who cracks, and he must be tried and probably executed immediately, but this Muslim psychiatrist who was stateside in a nice safe office all day murders 13 and wounds 29 of our own guys, and they try to argue the poor lad suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome, from listening to real soldiers who had actual battle experience.

    Two and a half years later, they still haven't tried him.
     
  22. Mushroom

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    Actually, the Justice Department has pretty much nothing to do with either of these cases.

    Both of these involve active duty service members, so the Justice Department has not a single thing to do with their crimes. Both are going to be tried under the Defense Department, according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    So nice try, but your question has absolutely nothing to do with the facts here.
     
  23. onalandline

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    The fact remains that the Islamic Extremist still hasn't been tried. Obummer is still the commander in chief.
     
  24. Iolo

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    Anyone who wastes away his life thinking up offensive terms for a President because he has some African ancestry is hardly going to be into simple questions of legality, I suppose: all cases are a question of eye-for-an-eye equality between the Crusaders and their opponents, are they? You are heading for a totally mad world, you know. Why go there?
     
  25. Mushroom

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    Yes, President Obama is still in charge. And these have nothing to do with the other.
     

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