Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Of course it was. Trump makes the speech then refuses to let his fat ass be anywhere near, and goes back to his enclave and cheers them on. Seriously, are deniers delusional ? You don’t go to a demonstration with weapons including pepper spray without it part of the plan.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ef346e-6258-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html

    Read the article. The task is not to decide if it was preplanned which is obviously was, but to decide which individuals have direct knowledge to support the conspiracy. Do deniers need to be spoon fed ? Of course.
     
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  2. chris155au

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    Oh, so then Trump did NOT in fact incite the riot with his January 6 speech?
     
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    Where did you make up that from what I said ? He’s been inciting his naive and demented base from the day he had his first rally. It’s laughable that on one hand you support him and on the other hand pretend he’s just a poor misunderstood smuch.
     
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    The person who testified in congres would have incriminated himself if he told them the protesters were peaceful prior of him and his buddies showing up and starting a fight. The Minneapolis Police Chief wasn't present when Chauvin murdered his victim. The Minneapolis Police Chief did watch the vids and gave his opinion about what the cops did on what he saw on the vids.

    They said it was peaceful, that is an synonymous / in the context of them saying there was no violence.
    You're being dishonest and childish about that exact words of your very own choosing weren't said as if it's relevant.

    I can't prove a negative. It's up to you to come up with a vid that the violence started before the cops started the fight.
     
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    Go source where I stated this. I stated that Donald is responsible for his part of inciting the insurrection when he told them to fight or else lose their country.

    Point also still stands:
    Cops do not shoot violent white fascist busy killing them,
    while not having a problem shooting a black man fleeing.


    I've noticed you're not responding to this for some time now.
    So I can only conclude you failed to rebuke this, and can only accept it as true.

    That point of yours is just you deflecting away from my point.
     
  6. dagosa

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    It will take a while for supporters to get it, but Trump is not part of any group but himself. He just uses people then discards and abuses them when he demons appropriate. That includes everyone if his supporters. But hey, anyone who likes to be abused that way is more then likely of the same inclination. Birds of a feather.
     
  7. chris155au

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ty’-don’t-care.583573/page-62#post-1072644587
     
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    Nothing to say? :roflol:
     
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    Right here:

    Your unproven OPINION. (I'm using your standard, that OPINIONS must be proven!) :roflol:

    The funny thing is, that you don't have any problem with a Democrat using "fight" in a political speech! DOUBLE STANDARD! :roflol:

    You already agreed that cops don't have a problem shooting BLACK AND WHITE MEN fleeing!

    Again, you have MULTIPLE points. Don't pretend that you only have ONE! You claimed that there were rioters with guns and you seem to think that your source says so. Your problem is, that your source doesn't say that the ones with guns were PART of the riot. Simple!
     
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    You think that the POLICE CHIEF was on the ground clearing the protesters? :roflol:

    So the Minneapolis Police Chief was UNBIASED but the US Park Police Chief was BIASED! Double standard! :roflol:

    If you have a source which says that the entire event was 100% peaceful, then you would have already quoted a relevant extract from that source!

    It's simple: It's POSSIBLE that the cops are part of a huge conspiracy to cover everything up by lying about violent protesters, but this remains your conspiracy theory! :roflol:

    I'm not asking you to prove a negative, I'm asking you to prove a POSITIVE! The positive of everything being "taped!" If you actually think that EVERYTHING was taped, then you will need to support that. If everything was taped, I think that we'd know about it!

    Not even your precious press reported that Trump ordered them to be cleared. This remains your conspiracy theory! :roflol:
     
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    To be continued ....Trump is too.
     
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    I look forward to your replies. Like I said, you totally misunderstood what Miller said.
     
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    Sorry, I’m not into listening to individuals unless they speak for the entire science community. Miller ?
     
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    Sorry, do you think that we're talking about science?

    Yeah, former SOD, whose testimony you have been using in your argument.
     
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    Go source where I said otherwise as if this was something I ever made a point about.
    /facepalm


    It's not my opinion that Donald said to fight like hell or else lose your country, and so they immediately marched to fight at the Capitol. It's a historic fact.

    Nope. I didn't see them shooting at the almost completely white fascist mob attacking the police.... not even when a cop was lying faced down being beaten with clubs.
    Hence my point stands.

    You have yet to explain why when people who are busted on capital grounds and connected to the riot are somehow not part of the riot.
    That word lingo is something you brought up and failed to explain.
    I asked you multiple times. I can only conclude you forfeited.
     
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    I already replied that the Police Chief was unable to incriminate himself with the truth or a lie, while your source is.
    The opinion of that bias source contradicts the video evidence and the opinion of the free press.
    That's where you lost the argument.

    I already sourced that. You failed to prove otherwise.

    In the end, Chris,... you got zero video evidence proving the bias opinion of your source is right. All you do is playing word lingo's and demand I need to prove more and more. I am declining to come yet with more sources, since my prove already trumps that bias opinion.

    Never said the press reported that order. The press did note that they saw Donald appear just minutes after the cops beat away peaceful protesters.
     
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    Justice for Ashli!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    She was unarmed and murdered. Because she was white, there are no charges filed against the murderer. Pretty much sums it up.
     
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    How was it murder?
     
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    There is no way in hell this is equivalency. The cop who shot her was protecting congresspersons and staff. She smashed through a door and attempted to breach it. Doesn't matter if she was unarmed, there was a mob behind her and one way to stop the mob from advancing is deadly force, which is what happened. No one advanced through the door after that, keeping the congresspersons safe.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-cri...shot-capitol-rioter-ashli-babbitt-11618423059
    The lieutenant’s lawyer, Mark Schamel, said the officer was protecting lawmakers who were being evacuated and fired after Ms. Babbitt breached the locked doors that police had ordered the rioters not to enter. “This is the only correct conclusion following the events of Jan. 6. The lieutenant exercised professionalism and fantastic restraint in defending and protecting members of Congress,”

    The only one's raising a stink about this are ultra right looney sites like the daily wire, newsmax, etc.

    The ONLY ones making this a 'right versus left' issue (i.e., a political issue ) are ultra right wingers.
     
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    Equivalency to what?
     
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    Yes, because you are under the false impression that the police chief was on the ground clearing the protesters! :roflol:

    No, none of your sources say that the entire event was 100% peaceful!

    It's simple: It's POSSIBLE that the cops are part of a huge conspiracy to cover everything up by lying about violent protesters, but this remains your conspiracy theory! :roflol:

    Deflection away from this: "If you actually think that EVERYTHING was taped, then you will need to support that. If everything was taped, I think that we'd know about it!"

    No, but you said that Trump have the order! Right here:
    This remains your conspiracy theory! :roflol:


    Totally irrelevant.
     
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    So you admit that Trump is not PART of the Proud Boys!

    That 100% correct, but this is NOT:
    That's OPINION! Your unproven OPINION. (I'm using your standard, that OPINIONS must be proven!)

    The funny thing is, that you don't have any problem with a Democrat using "fight" in a political speech! DOUBLE STANDARD! :roflol:

    Doesn't change the fact that you agree that cops don't have a problem shooting BLACK AND WHITE MEN fleeing!

    I already said: in the same way that Trump is connected to the Proud Boyd but is not PART of the Proud Boys! Simple!
     
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    When exactly? Next millennium? :roflol:
     
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