What's the Christian argument against rock music?

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    BECAUSE HE COULD!! LOL!!!

    Sometimes people do certain things just to do them....to see how big of a star they have become and just how far they can push the envelop and just how much can they get away with.

    Elvis could just about get away with MURDER.

    And he did...he killed himself with booze and drugs as people could not say no to him including Doctors who wrote the scripts.

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    Gary Herman, the author of rock and roll babylon, stated that "elvis recognized the devil's part in his success".
     
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    Important point to note...Gary Herman mentions this in a BOOK he is trying to sell.

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    How would saying that "the devil made elvis famous" sell books? People don't care about sensationalist claims like that. They are more interested in the gossip/rumors of a celebrity's personal life.
     
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    Just to add in the old days the biggest scam artists around were BIBLE SALESMEN!!

    Every year or two a new edition of the King James Bible is published and every year the K.J.B. has a few changes made.

    Usually a few words are changed to make the newer K.J.B.'s a bit easier to read and understand by a more modern public.

    Even though such changes were small on a year to year basis the Publishers would put out a press release that would tell all Christian's THEY NEEDED TO PURCHASE A NEW BIBLE WITH CHANGES...and the publishers made it seem as if Christian Leaders were ORDERING the Faithful to bu a new Bible

    Traveling Bible Salesman would charge ridiculous amounts of money for the supposed NEW WORD OF GOD...as well as sell Bible Covers...Bible Protective Boxes...etc.

    When you think about it think of the MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY being made by the people who hold the copy write on the Bible?

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    No...you don't get it.

    Gary Herman is the one trying to become famous.

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    Gary herman didnt write elvis what happened. In elvis what happened (a more reliable biography) it states that Red West (a guy who knew elvis) said Elvis had psychic powers, and he proved it again and again. Do you believe that Red West was lying or not?
     
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    Total B.S.

    Listen...the people who actually are Psychic or are Remote Viewers or even more rare Telekinetic...are extremely few and far in between.

    Such people do exist though and both the Soviet and U.S. Military STILL USES SUCH PEOPLE...even though such Cold War Era projects are said to no longer exist.

    The FBI has several Psychics on their payroll and such people DO NOT ADVERTISE their abilities as either some people will constantly chase and bother them asking them to talk to a dead relative....or else some other people will label them as FREAKS.

    If you want to check this out a while back both 20/20 and 60 Minutes did a show on Remote Viewers.

    The Networks hired a Security Company like those who seal the envelops with Academy Award Winners names in them....and this security company picked 15 sites at random and they were the ONLY one's who knew where such sites were and 3 sites were chosen for each of 5 Remote Viewers.

    The Security Company had a specific employee drive a specific route to each site and in some cases the employee once reaching the site after driving a specific route for about 15 to 30 minutes....would get out of the car and either leave an object as a site and in some cases leave an object with a specific person at a site....or sometimes just talked with or looked at a person at the site.

    These 5 Remote Viewers were all former employees in the late 60's and early 70's of a Private Company that had a contract to develop certain systems and methods and conduct R&D for the U.S. Military in the field of Remote Viewing.

    The 5 Remote Viewers one at a time 3 times each were placed in an auto driven by the member of the Security Company who drove the original routes and then the Remote Viewer would tell the driver to drive a certain route which in all 15 routes and locations MATCHED EVERY TIME....as a different Security Company Employee...3 different one's...were used to drive a route to 3 different locations...for each one of the 5 Remote Viewers to determine and find and they did ON TV!!!

    They also found the people the Security Company Employees gave an object or even in some cases JUST LOOKED AT...as some of the people looked at whom the Security Company made sure were at the same locations on the day when this study was done.....such people being a Fast Food Employee....a Hardware Store Manager...a Traffic Cop....all these people were paid to be where they were before.

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    What about snoop dogg? He actually admitted that he made a deal with the devil. http://m.mtv.com/news/article.rbml?id=1717998

    Why did he say that?
     
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    Christians are not against rock music. A lot of rock, and even hip hop, bands are actually christian.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_Christian_music
     
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    ah, so they're only against the two thirds (though probably way more) of rock music which has nothing to do with your particular jewish cult?
     
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    PLEASE!!!

    Snoop for CERTAIN just say's such things for the press!!! LOL!!!

    Of all the musician's that have supposedly done this on a scale of 1 to 1000...1 being a musician most likely o have made this up and 1000 being a musician least likely to have made this up....Snoop is a solid 1.

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    There is an episode of SOUTH PARK were Cartman decides he is going to make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS be putting together his own CHRISTIAN ROCK BAND.

    When he tells Stan and Kyle about his plans to play and record and then go on tour playing Christian Music....Stan and Kyle ask Cartman..."Cartman...what the HELL to YOU know about Christian music???"

    Cartman replies to them..."I know enough to....EXPLOIT IT!" LOL!!!

    Then Cartman tell's Butters who is playing in his band...."Writing Christian Rock Song Lyrics is EASY!! All you do is take a regular Rock and Roll Song's Lyrics and replace all the words that say BABY and Honey and Mama...and put in the word JESUS!!!

    LOL!!!

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    Why did Kanye wear a Horus necklace?

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    I like christian rock more than I like regular christian music.
     
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    So what?

    My Mom wears some Egyptian Jewelry I brought back from Cairo and one of the necklaces has the eye of Ra...a bracelet has a small Horas effigy upon it and another has Anubis effigy upon it.

    Does that mean my Mom worships such Egyptian Deities or is she a Satanist???

    No...she just likes cool jewelry.

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    Rastafarians believe that Christians worship the Devil, that they have perverted the meaning of the bible, and stolen it from the real Israelites, the people in Jamaica, the followers of the living God, Ras Tafari (Emperor Haile Selassie )
     
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    There isn't one. its just some people that have an opinion that nobody listens to. they get raging mad when they go unheard and they say God doesn't like what they don't like because their opinion would have no clout without defrauding a god.

    Ever notice how God never seems to disagree with anybody that is using God in such a manner? What if God is on his cloud jamming out to black Sabbath, or slayer.

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    He thought it was the key to the stargate. The reason he has that funny expression is that the pic was taken just after he'd tried to walk through a wall.
     
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    You said 'but aside from the obvious satanic image in many bands', 'nuff said.

    If bands use overt satanic images and lyrics, then it stands to reason they know what they are saying and whom they worship. Seems simple.
     
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    That's true. You shouldn't judge an artist simply based on the clothing they wear. It could very well be a coincidence that Jay Z wore an aleister crowley hoodie in one of his videos. After all, a lot of people buy wierd shirts all of the time. But if somebody wears a certain type of clothing, and it happens all of the time, then it probably isn't a coincidence. For example, if I have a spiderman shirt, it doesn't prove that I'm a spiderman fan. However, if I wear spiderman shirts and I have a spiderman poster in my room, then I'm most likely a spiderman fan.

    Why does Beyonce have a goat-shaped ring? Why does Jay Z claim that he's posessed by spirits, and that those spirits make him a "modern day frank sinatra" and enhance his singing abilities? In her sasha fierce photo, beyonce has an evil looking goat on her motorcycle. Here's the proof.

    [video=youtube;9mG_6oKXu-E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mG_6oKXu-E[/video]

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    That cant possibly be a coincidence. Or maybe I'm taking Jay Z's quote out of context. However, Jay Z also has a song called "lucifer". Why are Jay Z and Beyonce using so much evil symbolism/terminology in their songs? Even in the rocawear clothing line, Jay Z has the all seeing eye symbol, from the freemasons. I'd say it's too much to be a coincidence.

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    How would you define "overt"?
     
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    Really? That's your question? Overt is obvious, covert is less obvious.
     
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    I understand what you meant, now.

    Also, what are your views on Jay Z and Beyonce using occult symbolism, and Jay Z claiming that he gets possessed by spirits? Do you think it's a coincidence or not? I'm not really sure either way.
     
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    If he says so< I would believe him.
     
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    Or else they're just trying to get a rise out of certain people.
     

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