White House says ‘no’ possibility Biden would pardon his son

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Previous administrations have granted the right to receive top secret briefings on the predecessors of the office but Biden denied Trump that courtesy. Given Trump’s narcissistic need for validation that would have hurt ergo his “beautiful mind boxes”
     
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    Lol.... I'm sure that's it. No shady dealings at all with the ukrainians or the Chinese going on
     
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    Doing business with companies abroad is not the same as acting as a foreign agent.
     
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  4. FatBack

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    What kind of business was he doing with China?
     
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    How would that be relevant to your claim that he was acting as a foreign agent?
     
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  6. Bowerbird

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    What kind of businesses were Donnie and Ivanka doing?
     
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    No. What is certain is that if a republican is elected, they will pardon Trump. Guaranteed.
     
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  9. bx4

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    If you want to know more about it maybe you should read the law. Where do think Hunter Biden’s activities fit?

    “the term ‘‘agent of a foreign prin- cipal’’ means—
    (1) any person who acts as an agent, rep- resentative, employee, or servant, or any per- son who acts in any other capacity at the order, request, or under the direction or con- trol, of a foreign principal or of a person any of whose activities are directly or indirectly supervised, directed, controlled, financed, or subsidized in whole or in major part by a for- eign principal, and who directly or through any other person—
    (i) engages within the United States in po- litical activities for or in the interests of such foreign principal;
    (ii) acts within the United States as a pub- lic relations counsel, publicity agent, infor- mation-service employee or political con- sultant for or in the interests of such foreign principal;
    (iii) within the United States solicits, col- lects, disburses, or dispenses contributions, loans, money, or other things of value for or in the interest of such foreign principal; or
    (iv) within the United States represents the interests of such foreign principal before any agency or official of the Government of the United States;”

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2009-title22/pdf/USCODE-2009-title22-chap11-subchapII.pdf

    And frankly, who cares? Hunter is not, never has been and never will be elected to any public office.
     
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    This is a bit funny.

    The Republican President Ford literally pardoned Nixon of multiple crimes.

    The Republican President Trump literally pardoned multiple associates of multiple crimes.

    Now I would condemn Biden if he pardons Hunter, But I will NOT be lectured to by Republicans on the morality of Presidential Pardons - no ****ing way.
     
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    Those attorneys seem to disagree with your opinion and they are probably more informed on the matter than either one of us put together.
     
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    At least Trump didn't pardon a bunch of dope dealers and that Puerto Rican terrorist responsible for all those bombings in New York with the Puerto Rican Independence movement like Obama did
     
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    I haven’t expressed an opinion. I have asked you a question.
    I have shown you the definition of a foreign agent. And I ask you - how do H Biden’s activities fall within that definition?
     
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    I'm not an attorney but you can conveniently go to that link and hear what attorneys have to say about it.
     
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    They don’t discuss why they think his activities fall into the definition of foreign agent. No help there.

    And these guys are No Win No Fee personal injury lawyers. Hardly the kind of lawyers who are experts in FARA.
     
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    this goes into more detail, continued at the link. Looks like he was a pretty strong advocate for going to bat for some Chinese Communist to influence us policy

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/new...amily-fara-compliance-stemming-business-deals

    Grassley Questions DOJ On Biden Family FARA Compliance Stemming From Business Deals With Chinese Communist-Backed Energy Tycoons
    WASHINGTON – Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) is calling on the Justice Department to evaluate whether Hunter and James Biden should have registered as foreign agents for their business arrangements with the Chinese government-back energy company CEFC. The company was actively seeking to build influence in the United States when it partnered with the Bidens.

    The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is a content-neutral law that promotes transparency by requiring individuals to register with the Justice Department if they are acting as an agent of a foreign government or enterprise to influence U.S. policy or public opinion. In a letter to Attorney General William Barr, Grassley is seeking details on what steps, if any, the Justice Department has taken to determine whether the Bidens complied with FARA.

    “When the available evidence is taken as a whole, it is clear that CEFC intended to make inroads in the United States for the purpose of expanding its business and used Hunter Biden and his business associates to help effectuate that intent. In pursuit of its goals, it appears that CEFC may have taken action to influence U.S. policy and public opinion in its favor and gain access to several U.S. politicians in an attempt to curry favor for potential business transactions,” Grassley wrote.
     
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    The best you have is some people questioning whether he should have registered. Investigate away. I don’t care. If he broke the law, change him.
     
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    He could easily clear it all up by providing the answers to what goods and services he provided that he was paid for.

    Unless of course he has something to hide like perhaps peddling influence through his father.... In which case has evasiveness will be understandable
     
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    That isn’t the way it works. Innocent until proven guilty.
     
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    Nothing at all suspicious about being paid multiple millions of dollars by the communist Chinese for no real demonstrable services
     
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    If suspicions were enough, trump would be serving a life sentence.
    How about applying some consistency?
     
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    Oh my god did you manage to write that without realizing the incredible irony that 95% of the stuff that you guys talk about Trump is only based on suspicions and anonymous sources?

    What do you think the Communist in China were giving Hunter Biden millions of dollars for?

    Why so many shell corporations to attempt to launder the money? People only do that when they're trying to hide the sources of it.
     
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    It's a c*** thing.....must protect the dear leader from himself.
     
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    Joe is only a mastermind on even dates :).
    The RW cover for Crooked Donnie is the amplification of false equivalence and straight up gaslighting.
     
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    Yea let’s have poor people pay for criminals to come out and have better jobs than those who paid for their degrees, have and make more money than those who paid for their degrees. And encourage these poor people to go commit crime so they can have a free degree as well lol. No issues there at all. All is fair lmao.

    The surface level thinking of this is beyond astounding.
     

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