Why should white people be blamed for African American's collective social status?

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  1. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    I think your post speaks volume for mine. Thanks!
     
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    why do you ask?
     
  3. guttermouth

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    key word "were," blacks WERE held back and now they have black only scholarships, reverse racism and discrimination, race quotas and affirmative action and they still play the victim. its getting old, take your blinders off.
     
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    Glad to see you appreciate my correct and thought provoking posts.
     
  5. bwk

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    If you think promoting the white supremacist movement and you having provocative thoughts of hating jews and blacks is your idea of being correct, I couldn't agree more. So far with your collection of eloquent posts, you could actually be the perfect candidate.
     
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    Where did I say I hated anyone?
     
  7. bwk

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    You didn't. But I do love those provocative thoughts you are spreading, that certainly head in that direction. Believe me, you are no mystery. One only needs to watch the words coming from your keyboard.
     
  8. ErikBEggs

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    Still are head back due to socio economic differences and the criminal justice system.

    Quotas are illegal.

    What discrimination are you talking about? I don't see any black owned businesses, organizations, or majority black police forces discriminating against whites.

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    Jews were not enslaved in America for over 200 years.

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    Why? The truth is the truth. I won't stop bringing the truth to your attention because you don't like it.
     
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    No; they've been persecuted for 1000, including having 6 million of them exterminated.

    Jews have blacks easily when it comes to persecution, Erik. This is worth mentioning, because Jews are still hated to this day; it is open season on Jews from Muslims, and they're called all sorts of names everywhere.

    But they've managed to do what the black culture has not. The reason is that there hasn't been a focused effort to socially coddle Jews and take away their individualism and self-reliance as black have suffered.

    It is literally like capturing a killer whale. If you do so, and then attempt to allow it to survive on its own, it dies. It is totally unable to do so.

    That is what has happened to the black culture, and that's horrible. It is the damage that a cradle-to-grave Government can do to people.
     
  11. Johnny-C

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    Noted.

    Even so, the plight of African Americans on this continent over the last 300 years is a significant thing. Anyone seeking to minimize that history, is someone I will always hold suspect.

    I'm certain that racists are both destructive and UN-American.
     
  12. Sugar Water Purple

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    It is my opinion that the civil rights movement, Martin Luther King Jr, and all of his work was for nothing. Well, not nothing, but it seems they sacrificed a lot, their lives in some cases, to improve life for future generations, and I don't think this is what they envisioned.

    "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character"

    This is true today, for the most part, but I don't think the content of their character is quite what he imagined it would be. The animated show "The Boondocks" has a great episode about MLK coming back today and being apalled at the black community.
     
  13. After Hours

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    I think MLK would be more appalled at how the Republican Party has been hijacked by the racist social conservative extremists that reside in this country.

    But that's just my opinion.
     
  14. ErikBEggs

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    Strawman, AGAIN.

    Jews do not have it worse than blacks in AMERICA!!! AMERICA! I specifically made a point about America. Jews were not exterminated or enslaved on American soil. Jews fled persecution. I'm sure if Jews were sitting up in Germany for another 300 years they would face similar and worse problems than Blacks in America face today.
     
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    Absolutely. I'm sure he and his contemporaries would be disappointed all around. But I feel like Americans in general are willing to accept pretty much anything. During the civil rights movement, people were willing to fight for what they believed in. Today, people complain, but aren't willing to do much about it, myself included.

    I remember hearing a young black man talking about how the white man is trying to keep him down, keep him in chains. He violated parole for drinking alcohol. In what world is that not his own fault? It is this lack of accountability that has a lot to do with keeping people oppressed. In a sense they are oppressing themselves.
     
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    White power is good.

    Do you care about brown pride or black power people?

    They are not racist scumbags if they want to live alone.

    Where is racism? A racist act is against the law.

    What do you mean? How are they making it hard?

    The conservatives like blacks and browns in this country. High ranking republicans like Ted Kruz argue for more immigration from black and brown countries.
     
  17. Oh Yeah

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    Integration hasn't worked very well. We still have the majority of each race living in neighborhoods dominated by their own race. The only main difference is many of the schools are integrated which are a "hotbed of discontent". The workplace is pretty integrated but the majority go home or hang out with their own race when the shift is over. There are sections of the rural areas of this country, that are predominant, with one race and culture. Even the groups that are considered minorities gravitate to areas that are more in-tune to their race and culture.

    I truly believe that all groups would be perfectly content to live in their own areas and run their own schools, police their selves and met out justice by their peers. Our jails would be safer if they were segregated.

    Our children would be better educated if all had the same access to the latest tools for learning. Serious consideration should be given to having all boy and all girl schools or classes. Children have plenty of time when they get older to learn social skills. Some people need to understand that we call children under 18 adolescents for a reason. We need to quit making them think they are adults and treating them that way. They are just kids.

    The politicians, the religious zealots, the religious con men, scammers, and the haters in this country just cannot seem to get together and sit down and have an honest conversation about race and race relations. I have never in my life met any person of any race that didn't have or doesn't have some prejudice, distrust, animosity, uncomfortability with other races. Not even sure how God feels about it. As much as the pols would like to legislate how we are suppose to feel, a news flash for them, it isn't working.
    Luv to ya'll. Well maybe not.
     
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    that is like trying to justify rape cause one was born of a rape.... the rape is still wrong, even though some people would not of been born if not for the rapes
     
  19. FixingLosers

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    My emotions completely empathize with you, but my rationality tells me if the son of that rapist became a truly benevolent and outstanding person, like a leading scientist, then god have mercy on that rape.

    Be a little bit more consequentialist. I know, it's a terrible thing to say. But it's all about result.
     
  20. Meta777

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    Rationality? As much as I am all about forgiveness, dealing with a rapist in a way based on how great their son turned out to be just encourages other rapists and more rape.
    And I do agree that its important to consider consequences, so what about the consequence of the damaged mental state of the people who get raped?
    And what of the consequence of not considering the risk that the offspring of rape will turn out to be not so great as a direct result of the way they were conceived?

    On that second part, consider that we fine and jail people who drive drunk.
    Would it make more sense, if we were to instead only fine and jail drunk drivers who end up injuring or killing others?
    Sure, realized positive consequences should be considered, but so to should the negative ones, and so too should the risks.

    -Meta
     
  21. FixingLosers

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    You see? This is where we neo-humans differentiate ourselves from you old-humans. We carefully examine individuals cases and take on nuanced views.

    As for encouragement, it would be quite absurd to think rapists rape because they want to produce offspring that contribute greatly to mankind instead of sexual gratification.

    All very true. So let's make sure rape is still classified as a crime. And for those handful cases where son of a rapist became higly successful, let himself decide what to think of the whole event.

    Also, slavery isn't exactly the same as rape. There is, after all, a huge difference between bringing someone from the backwaters of human society to the more developed worlds and the other way around.
     
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    Rape good, Africa bad. Got it. :blankstare:
     
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    False. The Jewish culture will most certainly prevent that from happening. They were systematically and institutionally persecuted in Europe for far longer than 300 years. Look where they are now. Also, the Japanese did not make a huge case out of the interment camps. They moved on.

    Different culture, different outcome.
     
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    The disability in processing complex information is a major indication of _____________.
     
  25. Meta777

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    Neo-humans? If you only look at the realized positive consequences of an action, and exclude the negative ones, and or the risks involved, then you aren't being very nuanced.

    True that, but if we start oh say excusing rapists because by chance their rape happened to lead to a great son, guess what all rapists are going to start using as an excuse?
    "Hey bro, don't throw me in jail, I was just trying to create another great son." (not that you're suggesting that of course...)

    Agreed.

    Of course, such a son would always be entitled to their own opinion.
    But as a matter of law, I do not believe a rapist who's son thinks highly of him should be treated any differently than the rapist who's son does not.

    What's your point? (I think I know, but I ask in the interest of fairness to you)

    -Meta
     

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