Why should white people be blamed for African American's collective social status?

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  1. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

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    Which is precisely why there are so many poor whites and blacks in the conservative southern United States,
     
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    So? Nothing's preventing them from changing their lives around. Nothing but their own attitudes.
     
  3. bwk

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    How much you want to bet this black guy was trying to get over it and move on, but got stopped by white guys like this who took their troubled past they couldn't get over, out on him; https://twitter.com/SgBz/status/402545437518733312
     
  4. ErikBEggs

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    Maybe, but the same states that are destroyed by this unfettered conservatism are the ones most subsidized by their northern liberal commonwealths. Ironic, much?
     
  5. ErikBEggs

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    The next time I'm unjustly stopped by the police because my car is too nice for me to be driving it, or I don't belong in neighborhood X, I'll remember to just "get over it."

    The next time a black youth is shot to death by an overweight, overzealous neighborhood watchmen, I will remember to just "get over it."

    Blacks don't blame whites for their problems, they blame the white man's system. Society is not colorblind; justice in this country is white.
     
  6. Subdermal

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    I'll reiterate.

    YOU, Erik, are the problem. YOU are. If you think history paralyzes you in the present, you have suffered a self-induced wound.

    My family on my father's side was chased out of Austria by Naziis. They had to give up everything they owned. It was persecution on an unprecedented level, and it wasn't 300 years ago.

    Do I sit here and roil and say that I cannot get ahead because Naziis screwed me up? Hell no.

    How stupid. Stop being a victim, Erik. Stop thinking that everyone is out to get you; that everyone is holding you back.
     
  7. Subdermal

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    Yes - do. The fact is that such an event is only an inconvenience, if you allow yourself to not be bothered by it.

    But you're crippled by it.

    Why are you giving such small-minded racists - a minority in today's world - such power over you?

    Now this is just absolute false outrage. Far more black youths are shot by other black youths than any other shooting.

    And that doesn't even address the topic of the Martin/Zimmerman event itself, which you are badly misrepresenting in order to maintain your devotion to being oppressed and helpless.

    Yeah...there's a distinction without a difference.

    Bullsht.
     
  8. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

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    I am. I am aware of what I cannot do that you can.

    I cannot run through a white neighborhood with a hoodie, regardless of if I am training for a 5k or to make the soccer team. I can be perceived as a threat.

    Find a case study to disprove that.

    I already spelled it out for you; justice is WHITE.


    We know this. Black youths aren't shot by blacks for looking like criminals. They are shot over dumber (*)(*)(*)(*) like wearing the wrong colors that day.

    Trayvon Martin was helpless. He was followed by an overzealous idiot for being a black guy in a hoodie.


    You can continue to ignore the reality. This is why blacks will never vote for conservatives. It seems insignificant, but the country is becoming more black and brown every day so sooner or later our elected idiots will have to listen to the problems in minority communities.

    - - - Updated - - -

    You are white.

    No matter how poor or rich you are, you will always have white privilege.
     
  9. FixingLosers

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    In other words, you don't really know the difference between consequences and reason, do you?
     
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    And what exactly makes you say that?
     
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    Nonsense. You can do whatever you'd like to do. I have been pulled over on a couple of occasions driving home when I still lived in the inner city as well. For being white.

    Know why? Because the cops thought I was trolling the inner city for drugs. I got pulled over because I wasn't black.

    Jesse Jackson would have thought you were a threat as well. Why? Because the history of black youth being a threat isn't fabricated.

    But you had no intention of being a threat, so why don't you just avoid wearing a hoodie? It's not that hard, and it's not that big of a deal.

    Why should I want to disprove that which I have no problem agreeing with? By that same token, how you react to perceived worry would speak volumes about your character. Jesus instructed that the meek shall inherit the Earth. If you simply act humble, it really doesn't matter how you're perceived initially; what will matter is what comes next.


    And if you continue to believe that, it will continue to be true.

    I don't think the 'why' matters to the dead youth.

    You and I disagree with what happened in that incident - and the jury disagreed with you as well. I'm here to tell you that I know exactly what happened with Martin. He had no humility, and consciously chose to take offense when perceived as a threat. And once he sized up Martin, he decided to get even with him for 'being dissed', and circled around to confront him. I have no doubt that Martin chose to assault Zimmerman, and didn't count on him having a gun.

    And died for doing something he shouldn't have done. Being 'dissed' is not a good reason to assault someone - but you and your terminal oppression and victimhood will never admit it.

    Just don't infect your kids or other black youth with that which has crippled you.

    I know the problems intimately. You're never going to fix them with your attitude. Never. It won't matter who is where in office. Won't matter. Bank that.

    My priviledge isn't my skin color. It is my character and skills. I wish you would have truly listened to Martin Luther King and understood what he was saying, because you truly do not.

    ETA: I thought to add something else here. I am in the process of forming another LLC, which will have two partners. One is me; one is my best friend from college, and the last is my best friend's best job foreman - a black man.

    We are forming an MBE. This is possible because Richard is obviously black, and I am 25% Puerto Rican. My college buddy is 100% Polish - his nationality doesn't help towards the minimum criteria for an MBE (Minority Business Enterprise). In order to qualify as an MBE, at least 51% of the company ownership has to be at least 25% documentable minority. That includes Caribbean basin (me) and African American.

    I tell you this because white privilege didn't make this possible; black privilege did (and a little 'quarter-rican' privilege).

    We're forming this business because of my college buddy's business, which is steel fabrication and erecting, as well as machinery moving and rigging. His company has lost tons of opportunities because of required Government quotas for minorities - a privilege for which the Government is happy to pay a 5% premium.

    The problem is that there have been no competent fabricator riggers who are minority owned in the space.

    So we're forming one.

    You are wasting opportunities sitting and feeling sorry for yourself. What's stopping you...is YOU.
     
  12. Gatewood

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    Taxes they go into the pot and tax monies they come back out. As for Texas it enjoyed the greatest rate of growth of any state in the union last year because in Texas if you WANT to work your rump off and make something of yourself in life (Brown, Black, White, Olive) . . . you still can. Fancy that!
     
  13. FixingLosers

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    Poverty is an outcome, not a reason of any sort.
     
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    I saw an interview with M. Night Shyamalan a few weeks ago. He authored a book "I Got Schooled" about the state of American education and his proposed fixes. Here was an interesting excerpt from his interview that really caught my attention:

    "You know how everyone says America is behind in education, compared to all the countries? Technically, right now, we're a little bit behind Poland and a little bit ahead of Liechtenstein, right? So that's where we land in the list, right? So that's actually not the truth. The truth is actually bizarrely black and white, literally, which is, if you pulled out the inner-city schools —just pull out the inner-city, low-income schools, just pull that group out of the United States, put them to the side — and just took every other public school in the United States, we lead the world in public-school education by a lot.

    And what's interesting is, we always think about Finland, right? Well, Finland, obviously, is mainly white kids, right? They teach their white kids really well. But guess what, we teach our white kids even better. We beat everyone. Our white kids are getting taught the best public-school education on the planet. Those are the facts."

    Now, I don't know how much validity his statement has because I haven't looked into it. But intuitively, it sounds and feels right to me. So, if you ask about the plight of African Americans on this country, this is where it begins.
     
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    Ah but you are wrong as it can most certainly be both. Poverty can be the reason for why a poor person lives in a shack.
    Poverty of a set of parent can also be the reason for why a child starts off poor.
     
  16. Gatewood

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    That's an impressive and perfectly accurate essay on reality. I was raised dirt poor and Italian in a poor White community in the deep, deep south and I was NOT considered White by the White people around me . . . and I did not give a damn. I was a United States citizen and I was determined to be a good member of my community. Being unable to alter the society and culture around me I took charge of what I could . . . which was MY OWN actions and demeanor and attitude.

    This constant whining and "Woe is me bitterness!" this bile expressed by certain minority groups in the midst of endless opportunity in the greatest of the most powerful nations in the entirety of the history of humanity is enough to make one puke. Pull your damn socks up people and grow a freaking damn spine! Oh . . . and stop listening to the people who make a living off of convincing you that you are being picked on and that nothing has ever been or could ever be your own damn fault in life. Stop listening to the forking professional race-hustlers.
     
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    I wasn't aware that Jewish people were wanting to paid for the Holocaust. They also know that Hitler is dead and don't worry about him returning.
     
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    And - oddly enough - Jew on jew crime is quite low.

    But here's the deal, black people: Jews would have every reason to act and blame and whine as you do. Everything you claim befell you has befallen them, and worse.

    But they have somehow found something you haven't.

    Why?
     
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    Victim mentality and now you can add ignoring the truth.
     
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    Hahahaha! Stop complaining.
     
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    Blah, blah.....are you gullible enough to believe everything you read on twitter? You should get over it.
     
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    Now you are getting the right attitude. Society is not colorblind.....there are still minorities that only see color in everything.
     
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    There's more there than just something to read there. And what is there, is worth a thousand words of reading. For others like you, it's not worth so much.
     
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    Yeah because we all know everything we read on social media is true....hahahaha!
     
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    Whites are not completely blameless, but neither are they completely to blame. Blacks were held back for decades, both educationally, and in jobs. This caused them to be poor for the most part, and poor people tend to turn to crime more often. So, the fact that white people oppressed blacks, does play a part But, since the 1960's and laws against racial discrimination were passed, blacks have had a much easier time to find work in most cases. Those who do good in school and are able to get good work tend to succeed

    One of the biggest problems now is not oppression by white people, but the glorification of crime in rap music. Throughout the 80's and 90's rappers made selling drugs and being in gangs sound cool, and their young impressionable, young, mostly black fans wanted to be like them. Many black students started to consider school a waste of time, and they chose to sell drugs or do other crimes to get money.
     

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