4 million to 5 million in 17 days

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it's a fact, then proof exists. Please provide.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The MSM is not keeping track of the counts. You are literally saying that every hospital in the world is in a conspiracy to inflate the numbers. That's ridiculous. Talk about trying to herd cats. Yikes.
     
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    The proof is in life experiences. Perhaps you have not yet arrived at that point along life's road.
     
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    No, I am not literally saying that. Literally, YOU are saying that.
     
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    Oh Jesus

    Life experience

    Ya get better insight at the corner barber shop
     
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    huh?

    you are adding a zero aren't you? Please show me anywhere that reports thousands dying daily in FL

    FL is deaths' waiting room and we have a lot of elderly and a lot of folks with comorbidities. Let's clear the political correctness BS and get to it. Why is it that besides the elderly, blacks and hispanics seem more susceptible to covid?It's the comorbidity of diabetes and heart/blood pressure issues brought on by a horrendous diet and obesity.

    when you look at the hispanic and black population in FL, it's around 43-45% or over 9 million folks. Why is it that Asians seem less effected by covid? Might it be due to their lower obesity rate?

    So, you are more than welcome to lock yourself in your room and mask up. Those who have abused their bodies have made themselves a high risk person when it comes to viruses. We cannot turn back the clock and fix bad choices of those who put themselves into harms way by abusing themselves. We cannot fool ourselves into believing that masking up and locking down will make the virus disappear.
     
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    You want me to document something I didn't claim?
     
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    What I learned in life is that many humans are in denial of certain facts. The shrinks call it cognitive dissonance, the lawyers call it willful ignorance.

    If you don't think such behavior exists in humans, that would suggest that you are young.

    I did not claim that life's experiences gave me everything I need to know about a virus. YOU made that claim, and that suggests you are dishonest in your posting style.
     
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    I’ll respond to the first assertion in your Gish gallop post.
    America locked down two days after Australia. A claim those two days were the deciding factor is ludicrous.
     
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    straight outta your keyboard

    Lesh said:
    Florida and Texas never locked down hard enough and they and California opened up too soon and too sloppily and now look where that has lead us

    Thousands dying daily
     
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    An assumption based on the fact that in virtually all viruses that is the outcome of initial infection and survival.
     
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    Yeah. She confirms that they don't keep us from getting it. Hooray! We all agree!

    Here's a thought. Take a spray bottle of water and spray it into the air. See what happens. Now, take that same bottle and spray it through a mask. Same result? If yes, you're correct. If no, you are seeing what the mask is preventing live and in-person.
     
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    does seat belt save you from car accident 100% , nope! does it dramatically reduce chance of serious injur or death compare to person who doesn't wear seat belt, YES! its Same with Mask, combine with social distance/contact tracing etc, it significantly reduce the chance of getting covid!!. there is no such thing as 100% proof.
    if you so sure, go stand Next to a covid patient Not wearing a mask vs someone have a mask and stand 10ft away, do you want to be the former or latter one.
     
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    "but at the end of the day, I was looking at cloth masks and surgical masks and respirators from several points of view. First of all, for healthcare and community, but also do they work as source control? Or do they work as personal protective equipment? Or both? And at the end of the day, cloth masks in my opinion don’t work in any form. They aren’t very good at source control, except for maybe very large particles. And they should not be used in healthcare settings for a number of reasons."
     
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    The problem with your analogy is that if you create one seat-belt out of twine, and the other seat-belt out of rubber bands, neither is going to protect you in a crash. Such the same for surgical-masks and cloth-masks. Both give you nothing more than a false sense of security, and surely that's not going to protect you either.

    Maybe if we were all wearing respirators your seat-belt analogy might apply. But I don't think that's going to be happening anytime soon.
     
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    Do the experiment yourself. All you need is a spray bottle, set to mist, and a paper towel. Does the paper towel stop some of the mist from getting through? If all we can do is slow down the spittle coming from our mouths, than that's all we can do. It's one of the easiest science experiments you can do.
     
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    Either that or the program to contain it isn't working.
     
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    What program???

    You need a strong national program, and we don't have one.
     
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    Our “lockdown” was hardly that and was in response to infection rates that Australia didn’t see... obviously
     
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    Next?
     
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    He’s right. Cloth masks are the least effective

    and?
     
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    Using the two day difference between Australia locking down and the US doing so to bash Trump is a fail.
     
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    No, they're not the least effective, their "useless." They don't work in any form. Worse yet, they create a false sense of security.
     
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    Australia didn’t have a six week influx of travelers from infected European countries... and still they reacted quicker than we did
     

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