Are you actually ready to buy an Electric Vehicle?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Robert, Mar 17, 2021.

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Electric vehicle in your future?

  1. I now have one.

    8.6%
  2. I will get one this year.

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  3. I see one in my future.

    30.0%
  4. I will stick to fuel.

    55.7%
  5. I will keep my fuel car plus purchase an EV.

    4.3%
  6. I will eliminate my fuel car and only use the EV.

    1.4%
  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We never have to do any analysis for our fuel powered cars but one must to this for EV's.

    Now I will post the title of this video. First it was made in England. So does that invalidate it? It shows some rural driving. If we drive around rural areas, it validates this video.

    This is why people don't buy EVs...it's just not good enough !

     
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    If I lived at or very near sea level, in some area where there are LOTS of charging stations, I might consider it -- but only if Biden were to pay for about half the cost of the car with government welfare -- OOPS! -- I mean, "subsidies"....

    The batteries, although horribly expensive by themselves, do seem to have gotten greater capacity than they had a few years ago, and the range they provide is farther. But it still takes a hell of a lot longer to charge a battery than it does to fill a car with gasoline.

    And considering what a criminal crap-pile this country has been turning into, especially in the larger metro areas, how long do you want to remain a stationary captive in one area where there are chargers while robbers and other criminals 'scope you out' as your car is being charged up...?

    [​IMG]. "Hey, baby... you want us to 'charge your battery' for you..?" :twisted:
     
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    I think our next car will be an electric. It will be mostly an "around the town, back and forth to work" car for starters. As the infrastructure grows we will get one for longer trips as well. I will be happy to put the ICE being me.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Crime has to gravitate to opportunity. I had not considered that factor.
    So far of 2 replies, none owns one today. I do not own one.

    Even in the West with our high mountains, it is risky to buy electric vehicles.

    Consider that in CA you are on a trip when suddenly CA shuts off the power during a major rural fire.
    Consider that on level ground, the discharge rate is fine yet in the steep mountains the EV poops out.
     
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    Yeah, I know exactly what you mean! I live on the 'Front Range' in Colorado, where my living room is more than 6,000 feet above sea level. Ain't no way I'm buying an electric car for use up HERE....
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I moved out of CA in 2019 and now live in Idaho with my son. Even here it is still cold at night and of course cold saps batteries as the video I presented shows.
    A battery no matter the type only produces a low voltage. And when I studied Physics, that drives the charge. V=IR
     
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    Even though I only made a "C" in Physics back in college (a million years ago), I will vouch for the accuracy of that equation! Herr Doktor Georg Ohm, and yourself, were/are absolutely right!

    I have nothing against 'electricity'... far from it. But for personal transportation in 2021? Um... in Colorado, or any part of the far-flung, sparcely-populated American West? Not yet.

    [​IMG]. "You wanna drive a battery-powered car in the mountains? Bist du wahnsinn?!" :psychoitc:
     
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    Nope. I do not plan to ever buy one. They are too expensive, there is only one charging station in my city, I am not paying to upgrade my electrical service, and even if none of that were true, I doubt they will ever have the power of a truck.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I first went to college, it was 1957 that my personal prediction was the fuel cell would power the automobile. I know of some busses so powered so my hope is we drop batteries and go to fuel cells.

    Electric current is just fine. What has to be handled better is range of movements. Not every person owning a car lives in some city.
     
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    There are electric trucks coming out that will have twice to three times the “power” of a truck — and several semi trucks.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Batteries far outweigh engines. And Batteries need recharging. If you lose power, you have no truck to use.

    But of course electric motors are very powerful.
     
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    We have a Model S for daily driving. Infrastructure is horrible around our very red primary home so we just charge it every night. Also have a gas SUV for trips.

    Electric vehicles are still fairly new comparatively and most manufacturers are moving to electric only in the next ten years.

    It is the future
     
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    The same applies to gasoline vehicles. Tanks need refilling and if you run out of gas you have no truck to use.

    With the entire US government fleet going electric, most likely the USPS and several freight companies the issue of charging will become less of an issue.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You believe Biden then?

    What happens to the fleet when electric current stops? With gasoline you can store it in containers. Batteries are not good containers of electric power due to batteries having low voltages.

    A good way to recall that is when our submarines were both diesel and electric. Diesel engines moved them forward much faster and they could roam long distances. Electric batteries caused them to move much slower with short ranges.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Tesla S will not do the job for you that your SUV will. Also fueling up your SUV is very fast. It can take you a few hours to get the Tesla recharged fully.

    The problem as I analyze it is not with electric power. It is with the batteries. A fuel cell produces both electricity and the emissions are water.
     
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    Then they stop and charge. Most electric vehicles can go 250 miles or more per change (new ones are passing 350), so you think most of our government fleet drives more than that in one day?

    ...

    Submarines do not have the ability to charge frequently. Absurd comparison.
     
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    The Model S does the job my SUV will not do which is never having to stop for gas or charging, it is also significantly cheaper to charge than my SUV is to fuel.

    Fuel cells are in their infancy, battery technology will continue to advance. One of them (or another technology) will replace gasoline.
     
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    I'm not seeing charging stations anywhere near me. I could probably google it and find a couple but then if I want to travel long distance I'd be afraid running out of battery.
     
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    There is no option for me in the poll

    Only Elon Musk & Tesla has considered
    EMF exposure!


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    Moi :oldman:



    STOP :flagcanada:
     
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    H2O is a greenhouse gas.
    It should be condensed to a liquid
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is, from Fuel Cells.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As they recharge, and you are far from home, what do you do now?
    Submarines not having the ability to frequently recharge is one of the reasons I said diesel works better.
     
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    Fuel cells were invented in the 1800s. But in some areas city busses uses them successfully.

    Fuel prices have risen steeply under Biden.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps he does not have the spare hundred thousand to use for purposes you favor.
     
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    I don’t understand what you are asking. There is already charging infrastructure and more is coming. How far away from ones home or office do you believe most people go on a regular basis?

    Comparing a automobile to a submarine is simply absurd. By your metric nuclear is better. Should we put mini nukes in cars?
     

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