Are you actually ready to buy an Electric Vehicle?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Robert, Mar 17, 2021.

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Electric vehicle in your future?

  1. I now have one.

    8.6%
  2. I will get one this year.

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  3. I see one in my future.

    30.0%
  4. I will stick to fuel.

    55.7%
  5. I will keep my fuel car plus purchase an EV.

    4.3%
  6. I will eliminate my fuel car and only use the EV.

    1.4%
  1. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

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    You miss the point. It’s not what the average daily mileage is. Mine is about 30. And the parking structure at work has charging stations. The point is when I want to explore the Pacific Coast from San Diego to Astoria, Or. and beyond or the Sierra Nevadas, etc. I need a vehicle propelled by an easily located energy source that doesn’t take 30 minutes or so.
     
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    That is about mine, I sometimes run up to 100 miles with clients but thats rare. I have an old jeep for “fun” and an SUV for trips but I have saved thousands over the years on gasoline using an ev as a daily driver. I have friends that live in the city that rent gas vehicles when they go on trips.

    It isn’t for everyone yet but I know of no one that has gone to electric that has moved away from it (anecdotal)
     
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    Its like you don't understand economies of scale or technological progress. You assume everything will be exactly as it is now!
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To use one example I traveled from the SF Bay Area to Kingman AZ driving one day. I left Fremont, CA early full of fuel. I gassed up again on Highway 5 in the area of Bakersfield or maybe it was at Bakersfield. I then gassed up at Kingman, AZ. EV would have added something like 4-6 hours to the trip. I drove around 590 miles that day. Also where would I have plugged in on that trip? Gas stations were plentiful on the entire trip that ended finally at Branson, MO. Again taking the entire trip, I would have had to hunt for EV charging stations all the way to Branson. In Arkansas I was on some rural roads that I doubt had EV charging available.

    When I departed Kingman, I turned off of #40 to see the Grand Canyon. Where would I have charged up?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, as I predicted when in college in 1957, even then I predicted a fleet of EV cars all around America.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    YES under Obama and Biden prices had gone up a lot. Trump was good for American fuel prices. No you need not explain economics at any level to me. Others might want you to explain it to them, so go for it.
     
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    A lot of city people also live in apartments where they can't yank a wire down the elevator to their parked car.

    And as you point out, once you leave home, you leave that home charging facility there at home.

    This is one reason why I still favor the fuel cell that has a very long range and I am sure prices of Hydrogen will fall as more is produced. Some guy produces hydrogen in the rear of his own car as he drives along. His gas engine runs on hydrogen since it burns so well.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How often do you see a Stanley Steamer on the road?

    I understand this topic pretty well.

    What about the Desoto? The LaSalle? The Hudson?
     
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    Gas prices have gone back to their pre-COVID rates. COVID was good on gas prices because they destroyed demand while supply was increased because of a feud between Russia and Saudi Arabia. It is really sad with all of this free data and knowledge that exists so many of you choose to flat out ignore it in exchange for memes you saw on Facebook.
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    This is why most electrics are still actually hybrids, they have a small gas motor that can fill in temporarily, though this does cancel out a lot of the entire electric's advantage.

    Batteries are getting better, they charge faster and some are light enough they could be swapped out. This does presuppose that batteries are universal, but so are gas nozzles.

    Something will be worked out. Electrics are very fast and easy to drive, light and simple only needing a small motor at each wheel instead of the complicated and heavy central power plant, driveshaft, and transmission that bedevils us today. I look forward to my next car which will probably be one
     
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    Right now California, where I live, suffers through brown outs and blackouts added the additional load to keep a significant number of EVs charged will just tax the system even worse. Having the reliable generation, distribution and delivery to get a significant portion of our gas vehicles replaced is a huge undertaking.
     
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    I haven’t looked into hydrogen powered vehicles much but they seem like an interesting option.
     
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    Biden's latest bill allocates several billions for it and enterprising citizens are being counted on for the rest. I hope it's enough.
     
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    As with so many separated subjects, answers are simple and complicated at the same time.
    Trying to transpose the current U.S. vehicle preferences onto a future of electrically powered cars and trucks is a non-starter. The future cannot be like the past if we are to have conveniently available individual transportation without the excessive costs in pollution and treasure we suffer presently. The simple answer is light transportation capable of being charged locally from renewable local energy (solar and such). The complicated part is getting to common acceptance of such a change.
     
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    Ähm, I don't think those dudes can charge a battery with their, ähm, pintos....
     
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    There is no need to upgrade your electrical service.
    We've had one almost two years now. It has over 300 mile range. Can find chargers all over.
    We live in one of the coldest states in the US.
     
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    According to the map of charging stations, my city has 2 reserved for government vehicles only and 1 at a chevy dealership. That is not "all over".
     
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    I'm probably going to get one far in the future. There's a reason you might not have thought of, and that's that I want a self-driving car for my next car and the only option the car companies are pairing that with is for electric vehicles. If there were an affordable gas car with self-driving features I would buy that instead of the EV.
     
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    I will definitely stick to gas-powered vehicles for as long as I can. They keep getting better all the time, and the Mazda CX-5 I currently have is the most fuel-efficient, economical, ergonomic, and the best driving vehicle I've ever had. The same can not be said for any electric vehicle in the market today.
     
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    You know, for the people complaining about a lack of charging stations where they live I compose a thought. I heard there was some criticism about Biden's infrastructure bill and one of the complaints is that are charging stations infrastructure? Yes, I believe they are.
     
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    Batteries can provide any voltage desired by chaining batteries in series. The issue is that they produce low current.
     
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