Are you actually ready to buy an Electric Vehicle?

It's not just the cold it's cold AND heat and using the cars HVAC system.

"The organization tested five all-electric vehicles: the Tesla Model S, Nissan LEAF, Chevrolet Bolt EV, BMW i3, and VW e-Golf. Range consumption was compared with outside temps at 20°F, 75°F and 95°F. As originally shared by Green Car Congress, AAA concluded that the hot and cold temps only had a "modest" impact on range until the HVAC system was used:

On average, an ambient temperature of 20°F resulted in a 12 percent decrease of combined driving range and a 9 percent decrease of combined equivalent fuel economy (when compared to testing conducted at 75°F).

On average, an ambient temperature of 95°F resulted in a 4 percent decrease of combined driving range and a 5 percent decrease of combined equivalent fuel economy (when compared to testing conducted at 75°F).

On average, HVAC use at 20°F resulted in a 41 percent decrease of combined driving range and a 39 percent decrease of combined equivalent fuel economy (when compared to testing conducted at 75°F).

On average, an ambient temperature of 95°F resulted in a 17 percent decrease of combined driving range and an 18 percent decrease of combined equivalent fuel economy (when compared to testing conducted at 75°F)."
https://insideevs.com/news/342782/how-ev-hvac-use-impacts-range-much-more-than-extreme-temps/

I have had to evacuate my home several times due to approaching hurricanes, I cannot imagine having to do that in an EV when a normal 300 mile drive 3 1/2 hr, drive inland takes 7 hours, in July when temps are +95 and humidity 100% and probably already raining and maybe at night requiring headlights.

 

EV’s not family workhorses, but short range second cars
Charles Rotter
In a recent Los Angeles Times article, citing Edmunds data, The number of battery-electric models available more than doubled from 2018 to 2019, but EV sales budged in the wrong…

 

So if the power grid goes down, or a rolling brown out that California is fond of, what happens then?

For light driving, I have a gas vehicle. For long hauls or heavy work, I have a diesel. I don't see an EV fitting into my life any time soon, or later.

 

I am starting to understand why you post the stuff you do:



CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE

 

I don’t know if it would work for you but we have 4 power walls at our primary residence along with solar panels which eliminates worry from power shortages — which thankfully we have very few (maybe 4 a year that last over an hour).

We use the EV sedan for business and around town and an ICE suv for longer trips & towing which could be used in an emergency if power was unavailable.

I have known several people that say they will never own an electric vehicle until they drive one and zero people that have ever owned one that say they will never own another one. YRMV

It isn’t going to matter in 10 years as ICE vehicles are being banned in many nations. They will become used only by the same people that insist on the incandescent light bulb.

 

We use solar panels out in the yard and garden for various occasional needs. Our current house is not conducive to a full array for regular use.

Our heavy equipment obviously will always require diesel, also the vehicle to pull it. Since it's already a decade old and maintained well, I don't think it will be quitting anytime soon.

Something for you to consider: Incandescent bulbs are all some people can use, due to visual issues and other reasons, yet you have no compunctions in your attempt to deride them. The same would apply to people who do not have the ability to modify their home to provide the electric to charge a vehicle, and must use the electric (if they have an electric vehicle) generated, which could very well be generated by fossil fuels.

I prefer the idea of personal choice. What may be right for you, is not necessarily right for someone else.

 

Your prejudice is your prison.

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Friend bought a Tesla. Sold it after six months. Bought a Genesis SUV. Said no more EV's.

 

I have no idea why many people who should have an electric vehicle hate them and stubbornly maintain they will have to pry their gas cans from their cold dead fingers.

Increasingly conservatives are acting like stereotypical old men who spend all day shouting "I'm agin it." when they are not yelling at kids to get off their lawn.

 

I will enjoy not doing all the maintenance on an ev you have to do to an ic auto.

 

I still use whale oil lamps for light...

 

I see, like maintaining this EV?

 

If the market needs the EV, it will supply them.
For reasons you can only appreciate at long lines to charge your car will you get it. When your EV burns to the ground killing all occupants, you will understand the mistrust. When you drive into the mountains to ski and can't charge your car, you may get it.

Worse they cost a hell of a lot more to buy and operate.

I have found used replacement batteries for the Tesla in the $18,000 range.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1439930473...e6-Qg1nAJOybVvPjQ5W4DwIEaX8wmjAMaAg-LEALw_wcB

 

Pro tip: Don't try to fool your EV's autopilot system. That's even dumber than texting or drinking while driving.

 

It's still very early days for EVs and I'm not interested in being an early adopter of this technology, but I expect it will be more affordable and practical eventually, and there's no telling what the gas/diesel market will look like by then.

But I have a car I bought new a few years ago and I plan to drive it a long time.

 

The Tesla lugs around 1200 pounds of dangerous batteries.

My Cadillac engine weighs maybe 500 pounds. My car carries enough fuel to last me for about 400 miles. Teslas do not have that range. My fuel tank can be refilled easily all over North, Central and South America.
Tesla can't make that claim. My refill takes 5 minutes. Tesla recharges in several hours.

Fires consume Teslas when the batteries go wild.





Start searching for the used battery pack for the Tesla to save money over OEM prices.
Shocking.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1439930473...e6-Qg1nAJOybVvPjQ5W4DwIEaX8wmjAMaAg-LEALw_wcB

 

Again, new technology. It's going to be expensive and have other issues that will be ironed out over time. Horse-drawn carriages were a lot cheaper and easier to work on than cars back in the day, but they still got replaced by pretty much everyone but the Amish. EVs will replace gas and diesel eventually as the tech and infrastructure improve and the prices come down.

 

My wife has a Prius and I drive an SUV.

Tesla batteries keep re igniting. Fire Dept hates them

 

Keep.in mind that pretty much all.of the practical concerns we have with electric cars today, we had with fuel cars when they first came out. Did you think they suddenly had gas stations all over the country? Or that fuel efficiency was where it is today? Or uphill power? Before my lifetime is over (barring accidents) electric cars will not only be number is, but way better and efficient than they are now.

I won't get one right now, but if I were wealthy I would. Those who purchase early in a product are the ones who help.push it down into a more affordable product.

 

Tons of stress, three fill ups taking three hours of waiting for a 450 mile round trip. Versus one fill up taking five minutes and no stress for the same trip in a gas vehicle. Oh and such an electric vehicle, on average, is twice the cost of a Ford Escape gas vehicle. Even for around town the cost alone is prohibitive.

 

In a fossil fuel world, they are a huge misallocation of resources.

 

Just reading the article and looking at the titles of other articles can tell any person that site is so partisan only a fool would trust it.

 

Same here, I bought a 2017 Subaru and a 2007 Jaguar XJ-8 a few years back. I like both of them. I remember when flat screen TVs came out costing $15,000 a piece. I waited a few years and now they are $399. Same with EVs. 10 years from now you will be able to buy a car with 500 mile range on a half hour charge and there will be chargers everywhere. Technology has been increasing at an exponential rate. My great grandfather was a successful blacksmith here in America until 1910. Then he saw the writing on the wall and bought and built a tire store in downtown Pittsburgh and became very successful at that. Those who have a vision for the future instead of whining about changes are the happiest people.

 

Cars catch fire all the time...
If that is your reasoning then I recommend a bicycle.

If you are only able to afford the cost or space for a single vehicle and need distance than an ICE vehicle is better for your requirements.

 

No one would believe that other than a committed partisan.