Is killing an abortion doctor murder or self defense?

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Is killing an abortion doctor murder or self defense?

  1. Self Deffense

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  2. Murder

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  1. ChrisL

    ChrisL Well-Known Member

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    No, I don't consider a fertilized egg to be a human being. A potential human being, perhaps.
     
  2. Battle3

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    There were, many pictures, you just did not look. Look again.

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    If not a fertilized egg, then at what point does it become a human being and why?
     
  3. RevAnarchist

    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    As a christian Minister, and card carrying reverend I can say I unequivocally detest abortion especially if its used as a form of perverted birth, or population control. Anyway I voted murder from a legal preservative.

    reva
     
  4. Bowerbird

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    We looked saw multiple foetuses at different developmental stages and what is still moot is whether they have come from a natural abortion or an induced abortion or a partial abortion. There is no evidence that death did not precede the "birth"
     
  5. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There were no pictures of "babies cut into pieces." Abortion doesn't kill a baby, that is a "pro-life" lie.
     
  6. Aphotic

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    I've got an idea - how about you folks who support anti-choice movements stop mutilating the genitals of little boys? By removing the foreskin, you claim it is some BS contrivance given by the great book. Nonsense. It is a way to diminish the nerve endings of the penis, thereby dulling sexual stimulation, and "controlling urges."

    Stop mutilating your children.
     
  7. Battle3

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    Fine.

    But once again that is not the purpose for the pictures. The purpose is to see exactly what it is that is being aborted - and its clearly a human being.
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    They are not deemed human beings until birth. Of course a fetus past 23 weeks bears a resemblance to A human, it isn't A human...it's only "human".

    Why are you ignoring Bowerbird's : " from a natural abortion or an induced abortion or a partial abortion. There is no evidence that death did not precede the "birth".""


    But again, your photo is fake and manipulated ....body parts aren't just piled in a garbage can no matter what dishonest Anti-Choicers can do with photoshop....
     
  9. Battle3

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    You need to read all the posts. The reason for the many 100's of pictures (go to the earlier google link I provided) of aborted babies is to see what this is all about. The reason for the abortion is not the issue, some might be still births or life-of-the-mother abortions, the purpose of a picture is to actually see what is being aborted, and in many cases its obviously a baby.
     
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    why should i CARE why or how often? it DOES happen, contrary to what many "think". the question is, why did the dummy let things proceed to that point?
     
  11. Cady

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    It is never a baby. The medical definition for baby is this:

    It is inaccurate and dishonest to call the fetus a baby. A fetus is a fetus. A baby is a baby.
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    Babies are NOT aborted , only a FETUS can be aborted.

    And even if you think women are so stupid that they don't know what pregnant means, trust me, it's a fact, THEY DO....and some don't want it.

    And don't blubber on and on about how if they don't want they shouldn't have sex...they have every right to have sex, FUN SEX :) and have an abortion if they get pregnant....
     
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    If the baby that was being aborted were to pop out, wrap the umbilical around the doctor's neck, and choke him to death, then it would be self defense. Else, it's murder.
     
  14. FoxHastings

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    May I assume since you haven't a clue how to use the quote function that you are referring to my post?

    NO woman lets pregnancy get to the last day or hour and then decides to have an abortion.
     
  15. Battle3

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    Semantics. It doesn't matter what a name you apply, its still a human being and a baby. A rose is a rose........
     
  16. FoxHastings

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    NOT semantics, science , that thing Anti-Choicers are so afraid of :)

    It is NOT A human being...it is not a baby......and calling it a rose won't get you a bouquet from the woman's vagina.....
     
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    Not a baby until viability - until then it is only a potential baby
     
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    (((((((((((((((((sigh))))))))))))))))))))))))

    This is where the pro-life camp has run a successful campaign in embedding in some peoples minds that all abortions are late term "babies" when in fact the vast majority of abortions - and increasingly so with the advent of "medical" abortion - are within the first 12 weeks - long long before development is finalised


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    Now are any of the pictures you posted representative of a 6 week old foetus?
     
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    A baby 1 day after birth is no more capable of survival than a baby 1 day before birth. Viability is a failed metric of humanity, abortionists only use it because it allows the unrestricted use of abortion.
     
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    so we have 3 people that support pro-life terrorism.... interesting.....
     
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    Well, actually it's a fetus growing.........however it is good to show the Anti-Choicers what really IS aborted and it is NOT identifiable as A human being as they contend.
     
  23. FoxHastings

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    Oh, heck, there's a poster in here who think if they sleep with a woman who is Pro-Choice they turn gay.....

    Justifying a little thing like murder is easy for them......
     
  24. Battle3

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    When does it become a human being? That's the primary question. Once that is answered, then the subject of when abortions occur is relevant.
     
  25. Bowerbird

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    At viability but I am actually pro late term abortion since the vast majority of those are not for women who "could not be bothered to wait" but are for foetal demise or abnormality incompatible with life
     
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