Mail Delays Fuel Concerns Trump is undercutting USPS ahead of voting

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  1. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

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    If I were heading USPS, I would be cutting anything I could right now. I would figure I got about a month to save a little money before I must have all hands on deck for the surge
     
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    Our corporations and government are one and the same, since our candidates are dependent on corporate support. This worsens when one considers that they own almost all the MSM, and that they are the same people.

    It's something that cannot be changed easily since we have become accustomed to the low prices and comforts, something small business' would not be able to give us. Yet our nation was built on small business' and enterprises.

    It's a failing in our system and the way it evolved, and I fear the intent of the corporations, or rather their owners, is to establish a liberal one world economic system under their tutelage and control similar to the USSR in some ways, but not in all ways. Basically it's a form of slavery since it hinders individual freedom.


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    should not be handed readily,
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    who carest only for their own.


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    but not to worship as we please,
    but only gods of lust and greed
    and all the things we shouldn't heed - Jeannette


     
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    Mail in voting causes a huge number of problems. Some of these are in the hands of he Post office, but most are in the hands of the local voting office.

    One of the most obvious problems stems from the fact that the local election boards do not keep their lists up to date. When the IRS sent out Stimulus checks a few months ago, checks were sent to 1.1 million dead people. (In case you have a problem with the math, that is about half of Hillary's margin of victory in the popular vote.) The local election boards have been resistant to purging their voter rolls. This would include people that have passed away, people that have moved away, and people that are no longer eligible to vote for various reasons. As a result, the voter rolls contains people that can not, or will not, be voting in the precinct. In the Los Angeles area it is estimated that there are 3.5 Million more people registered to vote, then voting age citizens living in that area. Every registered voter that does not exist is a possible case of voting fraud.

    Another problem is that votes are being thrown out for various reasons. When you go and vote at a voting precinct, you do not have very many things to put on the ballot, and they tell you exactly how to do it. You then put it into a sealed container to be counted later. Yet, with Mail-in ballots, there is no one to tell you where to sign the ballot, but if all the I's are not dotted and the T's are not crossed, then your ballot will be thrown out.

    The final problem is the timeliness of ballots being returned. Now, this is where the most people point their fingers at the post office, but not rightly so. In an election in New York, they sent out ballots the day before they were due to be post dated for return. This was not the fault of the post office. It was the fault of the local elections office sending them out late. Nothing the post office could do. They can not send out ballots before the get them!

    Now, don't get me wrong, the post office is by far the worst pseudo-government agency in history of the world. (Yeah, a little over the top, but still supportable.) I get my medications from VA by mail. I can not tell you how many times that they have gotten lost by our local post office. I will tell you this. It has been enough times that the State's Postal Service Inspector's General has launched an investigation. This post office has gotten so bad, that Amazon does their own deliveries here. My point is that adding the inept postal service to the voting process will not end with a nice uncontested election results.
     
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    I agree with all of that except for the term fascist. Nothing fascist about it. Corrupt, for sure.
     
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    No one has ever NOT checked my signature when I voted in person, every single time since 1976. For the past 10 years or so I have no idea if my signature has been checked. Mail voting does not give me any confidence, I have watched some nefarious things done in Colorado by democrats.
     
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  6. CenterField

    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In reference to the red font I used to highlight those four words: are you under the - very misguided - impression that I'm at some sort of obligation to comment on every line of your posts? Newsflash: the world doesn't revolve around you. Have a nice day.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You make some good points. Very good points actually, to the point that you are actually influencing my thinking about it. Thanks.

    But there's this, I cant resist: it's cute that you think I may have a problem with math, but you say that 1.1 million is about half of 2.86 millions. FYI it is about 38% of it, not about 50%, and no, I most definitely do not have a problem with math whatsoever, LOL.

    I'm curious, is this little jab (that I might have a problem with math) some sort of knee-jerk idea that if I say anything against Trump I must be some liberal product of public schools like conservatives often assume, and may have failed my education in some way? It's funny because one, I'm not a liberal, and two, it is a matter for rolling on the ground laughing, any guess that I've failed my education. If you knew what I've done with my education, and the sorts of fruits I've collected from it...
     
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    ^^^ Fallacious/irrelevant/derailing ad hominem. HAND too! :)
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, fellow, I'm done with you. Have a long and safe and happy life. Good bye forever. Over and out.
     
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    ^^^ Irrelevant derailing nonsensical ad hominem.

    The only thing more infantile & intellectually vapid than putting posters on ignore?

    Petulantly announcing it.

    :)
     
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    Please explain how removing a machine that sorts the mail helps save money.
    If the machine doesn't sort the mail. People have to sort the mail.
    How many people does it take to sort 30,000 pieces of mail an hour, like the machine can do?
     

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