NRA saved lives in Texas

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  1. Hoosier8

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    Because the US Air Force, the USG, failed to share the felon's criminal record with the FBI. Government failure is common.
    Hence the 2nd amendment.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Proving the obvious yet again: background checks will never prevent criminals from obtaining guns.
     
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    The obvious is this: The ONLY way to PREVENT ANYONE from obtaining a gun, in this country, is to incarcerate them before they do.

    In this case, our idiotic revolving-door criminal justice system had many, many opportunities, over several years, to recognize that this individual posed a violent threat to our peaceable society... and they chose, nevertheless, to release him back onto the public, anyway, merely because some stupid timer had expired.
     
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    You are absolutely right.
     
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    Our revolving door criminal justice system is too bogged down with petty pot smokers & non-violent "criminals" to accommodate and / or treat violent criminals that kill.
    Wouldn't it make sense to dismantle the DEA, for example, & turn DEA agents to regular cops that never seem to be around when some massacre occurs.
    Reallocation of our existing police resources seems to make the most sense.
    Do away with the revenue gathering scams like "Speed traps" & "Sticker patrols" & turn cops into cops, not tax collectors.
     
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    I agree 100%. The primary mission of the criminal justice system should be to segregate known-violent people from our peaceable society. We should have zero tolerance for violence, and the violent. Non-violent criminals should never need to be incarcerated unless they pose an ongoing tangible threat to the innocent.
     
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    About 30 years ago, my upstairs neighbor (a sweet, church going, elderly, black widow with whom I was good friends) was hacked to death during the day while I was away at work & well armed.
    I discovered the body the night of the murder & after the cops were finished, my room-mate & I cleaned up the bloody mess, hauled the blood soaked mattress to the dump, I had to deal with the saddened family & since I owned the building, I left the upstairs of the duplex vacant for a few months.

    The next day on the way to the dump with the bloody mattress, I was pulled over by 2 cops for an expired inspection sticker.
    After I showed them the bloody mattress & politely expressed my concern about the allocation of police resources, they let me off with a warning.

    To this day, the murder hasn't been solved & I suspect that it received little attention.

    It's that experience that has helped shape my views concerning the dismal state of police priorities
     
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    The NRA supports the lax gun laws that got 50 people killed/injured injured in the first place. Your logic is very twisted if you think they deserve credit for saving lives.
     
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    How was he able to buy four guns?
     
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    Two in Texas and two in Colorado.. He had also escaped from a mental hospital sometime in the past.
     
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    Yeah.. and with his record, how was be able to buy those guns...?
     
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    Wrong! The NRA supports background checks when buying from retailers. They also have been advocating to overhaul the NICS system. The shooters criminal conviction was never reported to NICS by the Air Force. You can't stop criminals from purchasing guns if their conviction isn't reported to NICS.
     
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    Gosh! Really? Who knew? Of course I know of nobody who said that they were.
     
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    The NICS database is already supposed to include all prohibited persons. How would you expand it?
     
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    Also the State response adding those that are mentally ill to the database.
     
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    Well clearly it didn't. This guy is the poster child for just how far the database has been gutted or ignored. And then of course background checks don't apply to all gun sales anyway. The system the NRA has advocated works and the endless carnage is the result.
     
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    I always figured the need to own a pretend military style weapon is proof of mental illness.
     
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    That's okay; there are many in here who display anti-muslim attitude as well. Guess it's a two-way street.
     
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    The lack of required input is hardly the fault of the NRA. For private sales, see my .sig.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Proving again law is not the solution.

    Say, he came from a distance and went to that one church in one sleepy village.

    Wonder if any Democrat asked yet why that is true? I want to try to ask original questions since the hate fest endured by private property is in full assault mode again. (guns are your private property)
     
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    You mean a rifle. Owning tools is a mental illness?
     
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    Yeah, but Muslims blow up randomly and drive on sidewalks.
     

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