NY Attorney General Moves To Dissolve The NRA After Fraud Investigation

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  1. Booman

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    So the government pick and chooses. You should sit back and think of the precedent that sets.
     
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    No, I said it should not be a regulatory action.
     
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    So the government does what, then?
     
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    The company has to be be guilty of a crime before action is taken against it.
     
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    We already have laws like that.
     
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    If you are suggesting that we should have the SPLC, NAACP and ADL forcibly shut down by the federal government, I find myself having a hard time disagreeing. Those three corrupt hate groups have no business existing.

    Oh, whats that? You think it is wrong to for the government to close down grievance groups that support your political position (no matter how corrupt they are)? Color me surprised.
     
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    That they certainly can. The question is should they -- should they even threaten.
     
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    This thread is about an AG lambasting a corporation. It is not about any criminal enterprise.
     
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    This is kind of Booman's point. The government ought to be prosecuting companies at any level only for bona fide criminal activity.
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    Correct. Good.
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    Obviously, I agree.

    Corporate death is a necessary, powerful tool we should apply carefully.
     
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    They're related. It's not unreasonable for the NYAG to defend her prosecution given the NRA and their supporters taking to the media.

    How the NYAG defends her prosecution is important.
     
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    I'm not suggesting the SPLC, NAACP, ADL, or NRA be shut down. Government, IMO, should go light on corporate death.
    Color you guessing incorrectly as to my opinion.
     
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    There are cases where corporate death is an appropriate remedy, and it's okay to threaten its use, but it shouldn't be done for political reasons.
     
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    No, they are not related. The AG did not present or describe any criminal actions or enterprise.

    The NY AG announced a concern and an investigation, not a prosecution. A prosecutor having a suspicion and an investigation is all well and good, but a proper and ethical prosecutor never publicly announces such.

    The NRA is more than talking to the media (which is perfectly proper as would be for the prosecutor to respond in this situation), it is suing the AG, or so I heard.
     
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    I understand the point, but I don't know if a corporation can receive a capital punishment. Though they could get penalties that, while not capital in themselves, could certainly have the same effect. No prosecution or penalty (or impeachment for that matter.....) should ever be done for political purposes.
     
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    The idea of corporate death--essentially recapitalizing a corporation and selling the shares--should make every shareholder a bit nervous. OTOH, we need a remedy for the kind of egregious behavior we saw from Purdue Pharma and Volkswagen.
    Agreed.
     
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    Tax evasion is a crime.
     
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    As if that has anything whatsoever to do with the thread. NEWSFLASH: Car theft is a crime. By the way so can abusive prosecution be at least a quasi-crime.
     
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    Clearly you didn't pay attention to the article in the OP. These guys were self dealing from a charity.
     
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    Even if true, that is related to tax evasion how, exactly????
     
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    Declaring an entity a non-profit then using funds for non charitable uses is a form of tax evasion, as is using the funds for personal use and not declaring it as income.
     
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    Yes how dare they pay for their daughters wedding from a charity!
     
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    Except the NY AG suit said nothing about tax evasion.
     

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