Oh... how Republican candidates looove Obamacare!

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  1. james M

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    who holds most recent patents in medical industry???
     
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    where in the video did he mention his support of Obamacare?
     
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    The USAF is a branch of the govt. it uses the more oil then any private industry in the world. The second biggest user, is the US Navy. It’s apparent that free enterprise does not control oil consumption or oil prices as much as our govt. To say that capitalism is or should be in control of companies that influence our economy is bogus. That’s not the real world.

    Btw, the single biggest private patent holder is Japanese. .
     
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    Actually this does make the air force an industry. 1+1=2
     
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    Define recent, define medical.
    You’re way out of league. The worlds largest particle accelerator is a joint effort among all nations and found in Switzerland. It’s used extensively in medical research cancer among other things. When it comes to medical science and saving lives, the scientists if the world work to cooperate and not count patents.

    Only private corporations work to stifle patent release if it maximizes profits. Private held industries are among the biggest causes if death and suffering . Cigarettes, fast food, opioids, asbestos, pollution, etc. all examples of private industry run amuck. Uncontrolled Capitalism in healthcare ? No thanks. They kill for profit. Left unregulated, they drop coverage, and refuse coverage for Pre ex conditions.
     
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    bogus?? companies survive by offering us the best jobs and products in the entire world. They are our slaves so we control them. This is far better than govt being in control when they have no incentive to please us at all and when our genius founders identified govt as the source of evil in human history!!
     
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    USAF is an industry ?
    You need a vocabulary lesson. What do they manufacture ? .
     
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    Sure, let’s all work for the coal industry and get black lung.
     
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    pure insanity without private companies we'd all be dead!! their inventions got us from the stone age to here. If you doubt it start one tomorrow. All you need it the best product in the world and the best jobs to offer. Do you have that or anything to serve your fellow man but a big mouth?
     
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    if you know what your point is why not tell us?
     
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    The Air Force is not an industry and thus its existence is not an example of socialism. 1+1=2
     
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    Of course.

    That's because ACA gutted the number of health care options down to one in many cases.

    That's what Obamacare was designed to do.

    Explaining why ACA is bad can't be done in a 30 second blurb.
     
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    Cigarettes kill 480000 per year. Cars kill but there are redeaming features. What redeeming features do cigarettes have.
    Is there an industry that comes close to this death count.
     
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    So you support the election season flat out lying from Trump and Republican candidates. I see.
     
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    Your under the illusion that private companies invent stuff. Let’s get real, companies use inventions. They hire people called engineers.
     
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    I support capitalist health care to reduce prices 80%
    and add 10-20 years to our life spans
     
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    so? people do many many many things to shorten their lives but in a free country we don't prevent this as if citizens are infants and Nazi bureaucrats are adults. Do you understand the principle of freedom and why its our greatest strength?
     
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    Too bad all Republican candidates don’t have the guts to argue that point instead of lying and saying that they support protections put in place by the ACA for people with pre existing conditions. By the way, what is this Capitalist Health Care system which will cut prices by 80% and add 10=20 years to our lifespan? That interests me.
     
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    We tried that, for decades. Maybe you were asleep. 30k people died every year because they could not afford.....for profit healthcare. They would not insure them with preexisting cinditions and dropped them when their healthcare bills exceeded their premiums. Mc Fly Wake up, we’ve moved on past death for profit healthcare.
     
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    So Facebook Amazon Google Microsoft Intel Netflix Cisco Apple chug along because of govt help??? Insanity!!
     
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    Defense Industry...
     
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    Freedom to kill for profit..sounds like a good nra motto.
     
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    no reason we cant help people who cant afford free market price but probably it would be so low most could afford it
    but until we learn free market price we'll never know how low prices should be. As it is socialism seems to be wasting about $25,000 per family. Do you grasp this??
     
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    yes people have freedom to kill themselves and not to exercise. You want a Nazi state to control everything since people are not suited for freedom??
     
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    it has nothing to do with guts. why take a libertarian position when you'll lose because of it?? Obama was for single payer but didn't push for it for same reason. Do you grasp this now??
     
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