Ohio veteran, 37, who went viral for refusing to wear a mask, died of COVID-19

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, and neither have you.

    The N95's are difficult to breathe through, resulting in 5-20% less oxygen intake.

    If you did see anyone wearing one, they were probably hanging off their noses, which entirely negates wearing one.

    I mean I'm sure that doesn't stop leftists, as in their brain just wearing it protects them, thereby suppressing their natural urges to purchase all available toilet paper in their state and neighboring states.
     
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    Nonsense.
    Document those claims
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really.

    Why don't you quote the part from the article that says that for us.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Richard Rose. Rest in peace.

    No regular doctor who would have recorded pre-existing conditions.
    After death: No blood test. No toxicology test. No autopsy.
    Yep. Definitely Covid death statistic. :rolleyes:
     
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  7. LangleyMan

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    I wear one sometimes. I'm not overly concerned about getting it here in British Columbia, so an N95 is okay when I go indoors.
    You can wear one with a one-way valve. Most of the people who would bother wearing an N95 are probably wearing it correctly.
    You come across as a rightwing talk radio type.
     
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    Yes I'm sure you do, at least until lack of oxygen kills a few more brain cells. Maybe that allows one to wear it for longer periods, who knows really.

    Your ability to quote appears broken by the way. I said those things, not @RP12

    Too much CO2 intake and too little O2, perhaps.
     
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    Per your part:
    And earlier, these anti-maskers are compared 10 year old advice on wearing masks IN WILDFIRES compared to avoiding COVID particles!

    The discomfort in one hour of N95 goes away, and anyone who cares can simply do the practice of a little slower, a little deeper breathing which is documented in any climbing and long walking books. Which also does wonders for people who have heart failure, emphysema etc. I am at Stage 4 heart failure, about 28% Ejection Fraction, yet care practice I can climb flights of stairs and walk solid distances. I have little sympathetic for all of these crybabies who can live with a mask.

    The games being played in order to make it seem that Trump and his buddies to try to say "don't bother with masks" is simply a constant litany by Trumpies to go back to making big money at any price to working people and children.

    Trying to use 10 yo health recommendations for high smoke condions has nothing to do with COVID precautions.
     
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    I think you need to read that again.

    Masks don't care what the particles are it keeps out. Only how large the particles are. It's applicability to a virus is just as applicable to anything else, including soot from fires.

    1. Are we only talking about healthcare workers?
    2. "During 1 hour of use" does not mean "the discomfort in one hour of N95 goes away"
    3. Try reading it again for comprehension: but the FFR dead-space carbon dioxide and oxygen levels were significantly above and below, respectively, the ambient workplace standards, and elevated P(CO2) is a possibility. Exhalation valve did not significantly ameliorate the FFR's P(CO2) impact.

    Maybe the elevated CO2 is making it hard for people to understand.

    You want to wear a N95 for hours a day? Go right ahead. I mean it's all a lie anyway, nobody is running around that is correctly using a kleenex mask, let alone an N95 or above respirator.

    I have little sympathy for all these crybabies who can't live without their masks to keep them from "baaaaaa'ing" too much.
     
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    I read it just fine.

    As anti-maskers and COVID-denyers pick and choose to say "everything is OK" and "masks are killing people and don't do any good anyway", thousands of people day from COVID.

    Yes, there is a little more CO2 and a little less Oxygen inside the mask, gee, the mask wearers still keep the same proportions, because our marvelous bodies will breath a little deeper!

    The same as when the air gets more humid, or drive a little higher altitude, or the car exhausts increase at rush hour, or you forget your Viagra or drink some booze!

    Yes, the discomfort passes as our people acclimate, or we move a little slower, or forget, or as anyone can, deliberately breath a little deeper and a little slower, just as anyone who cared about their healt and took basic martial arts or yoga or any doctorto help people to breath better due to age or heart failure or smoking or stress etc.

    The only "baaas" are people are too weak or too lazy or who are want people to suffer or are simply earning money because the more than 50% of the fake groups exist because they are paid to get Americans to be tricked into hurting themselves because they listen to the fake "news".
     
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    Clearly you didn't, as you don't understand what "during 1 hour of use" and "at 61 minutes everything was peachy" is.

    Clearly you didn't, as you either didn't read or didn't understand what increasing CO2 and decreasing oxygen by 5-20% does to your body, particularly your heart.

    Maybe wearing masks is how baby democrats are born?

    Perhaps once you've hit skill level 10 on wearing an N95 for 72 hours straight people could start using plastic bags.

    We could create a gameshow called "Name That O2 Level!"
     
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    I wear 'em N95 masks.

    Oh those yellow straps that vex us
    That I'm pullin' on to seal
    No other feller knows her
    She's a virgin mask for me
    She's the sweetest whitest color
    I can't buy one in black
    I got to be a racist
    To beat this virus back
     
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    Maybe when we finally land some astronauts on Mars we can just tell em to breathe harder.
     
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    Your own article said that we’re no ill effects from wearing an N95 mask
     
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    I'm not sure why they call it a respirator. The N95 lets in 50% of the covid virus, and traps the other 50% in the fabric of the mask, hence the warning label of "sickness or death" for misuse. Misuse would include using it for a virus for which it isn't designed to protect you.

    This is what a real respirator might like:

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    The N95 mask provides some protection and is a respirator. It even says it's a respirator right on it.

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    If you don't like an N95, try this with goggles.

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    Great.

    As I already asked and you have yet to provide, please quote the section where it says that.
     
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    With the left you just have to remember it's all about their feelings.

    If they feel like they're doing something that protects them, even in the face of logic and reason, they panic less.

    It's hilarious watching them suggest lots of people have a) been properly fitted for respirators b) wear them correctly c) are unaffected by increased CO2 and decreased O2

    So far they've made all these claims to me in this thread.

    These are not people capable of critical thinking. They've been told by their overlords that masks protect them, walking on wet sand is bad, and paddle boarding alone on the ocean should get you arrested.

    They just nod along in brain dead fashion to whatever Big Brother tells them.
     
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    Previously posted...from YOUR own link

    Conclusions: In healthy healthcare workers, FFR did not impose any important physiological burden during 1 hour of use, at realistic clinical work rates, but the FFR dead-space carbon dioxide and oxygen levels were significantly above and below, respectively, the ambient workplace standards, and elevated P(CO2) is a possibility. Exhalation valve did not significantly ameliorate the FFR's P(CO2) impact.
     
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    You won't live long working in a paint booth with an N95. You need a real respirator.
     
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    And further

    Results: There were no significant differences between FFR and control in the physiological variables, exertion scores, or comfort scores.
     
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    I did my own test with N95 mask and pulse oximeter. Without, 97-98 oxygen level.

    With mask, after 5 minutes no change, after 15 minutes a 1 or 2% loss, after 30 minutes a 3% loss. Seated only. Did not go beyond 30 minutes.
     
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    You're projecting. You don't want an N95 mask to protect people from getting the virus as well as block transmission to others, so you come here with misinformation.
    Yeah, it's "hilarious" watching people trying to cope with the pandemic and do what they can to protect family, friends, and others. Ha ha ha.

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    You didn't even know this is a respirator...

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    Why don't you take a holiday on spreading misinformation about COVID-19?

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32246890/

    https://www.sciencealert.com/some-masks-are-better-than-others-here-they-are-ranked-best-to-worst

    https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87355
     
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    Froma actual scientific tests

    Results: There were no significant differences between FFR and control in the physiological variables, exertion scores, or comfort scores.
     

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