Pfizer vaccine is junk nor tested for safety otherwise

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  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well was it not possible that you read something which differs from what you have read? Unless you're closed minded enough to only read the same stuff.
     
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    Clearly you are not interested. Clearly you have been presented with something which you have no response to!
     
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    "Leverage point" is a scientific term?
     
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    Are you suggesting you have an expert in epidemiology that I should read?

    I'm certainly willing to do that.
     
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    If you "don't have to be an epidemiologist to read what experts in epidemiology say" then you should be able to read what OTHER experts in epidemiology say, as in those who have a different perspective to what you have read. Considering this possibility, I don't know why you objected to this question: "Is there ANY reason to believe that in certain areas of the country, COVID deaths have been overcounted?"
     
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    Once again, if you want to propose a study by some reputable epidemiologist or organization of epidemiology, I'm open to that.
     
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    That may turn out to be true but it's still too early to know for sure. Start watching this at the 6:35 time mark.

    Tiffany Dover Dead - Another Vaccine Casualty
    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...4752CED54D4196698AA4475&view=detail&FORM=VIRE


    http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2020/12/tiffany-pontes-dover-is-dead-evidence.html
     
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    And, I responded.

    There isn't enough vid there to even know what question she was asked. Was she saying that applies to a specific place? Is that what SHE dicrects? Was she talking about one of the three entries in a death certificate? Was she talking about other methods of gathering informatin or how it is analyzed?

    Thing is, that is NOT what CDC does and it is NOT what medical doctors do.

    They register the cause of death. They also register copounding conditions. And, there may not even be a death certificate if the patient died of a car crash, or whatever, and COVID status wouldn't even enter in to a medical death certificate - it may instead come from the coroner or ??

    Maybe this will help a little concernig how Illinois does it
    https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/even-as-covid-19-surges-misinformation-persists

    Note that a doctor points out that the result can be that deaths clearly caused by COVID may never be counted as being related to COVID in any way - that is, standard procedure can cause an undercount.

    This is from the CDC:
    Your process is to grab any vid segment that you THINK supports your view without doing ANY research AT ALL.

    You need to do better than that, or you end up with more crap vids and red herrings.
     
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    So, you suspect dead Tiffany of LYING?

    Are you REALLY going to accept that one FAKE death compares in a frightening manner to 336,000 REAL deaths when making a risk assessment?
     
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    Nope. You did not. You may have thought that you did, but you didn't. I just checked all of your posts which followed my posting of that video.

    As in, a specific state?
     
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    I don't take the flu vaccine, so there's no way I will be taking this spawn of deception.
     
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    IF she is dead, she could have lied before she died couldn't she?
     
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    You can make the decsions you want to make, obviously. I would point out that medical science has clear evidence that your action is detrimental to those around you.

    But, there has been NO evidence of deception.
     
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    The FDA made a judgement call that it would be better for America if the full level of required testing were to be shortened - that it is logical that American deaths would be decreased based on the results of the current level of testing. So, they granted an emergency exception.

    So, now we have the largest test that could possibly be executed - vaccinating millions of Americans, especially those in the healthcare industry where exposure is high.

    So far, the FDA decision is winning IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.

    ==> Yet, YOU are listening to the NOSENSE about some single individual!!

    And, you think I have something to explain!!
     
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    What does this have to do with the girl?

    No, I never said that you had anything to explain. You must have me confused with someone else.
     
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    The point is, what does the girl have to do wth ANYTHING AT ALL.

    You have asked me numerous questions.
     
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    I'm just wondering why you think the girl couldn't have lied just because she is dead.
     
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    That is so far from any legitimate question concerting this topit that you should be profoundly embarrassed to ask that.
     
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    I'm simply making the point that the girl COULD have lied. It's also interesting that there is a death record for her.
     
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    That is not even SLIGHTLY interesting. All it goes to is the attempts at creating a vaccine conspiracy. And, we already know that exists.

    Read the title of the thread.
     
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    You rube presentations by “sum bloke on da internetz” Are not validated peer reviewed research

    in fact the vast majority are less reliable than a used car salesman in a recession - in Asia
     

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