The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration

Clinton didn't balance ****. The .com bubble did it for him. That's the ONLY reason we had a surplus in the 90's.

 

You mean exactly what republicans have been pushing for for years?

 

Just wow! All of agriculture is part of the economy. When they say crops are rotting in the field, it's NOT A BENEFIT! Ask any economist.

 

Lol, educated economist. Everything I posted about his recovery is demonstrably correct. Sorry.

I refuted this already.

 

Thank you for conceding.

refuted this already

 

More B.S. and you know it. Like Tramp trying to take credit for eight years of Obama economic policies that doubled the stock market and lowered unemployment. Shrub destroyed the surplus by giving $3 trillion to the rich, and just adding it to the debt.

 

Denial is strong. Especially if you ignore the facts.

 

Funny stuff. Keep the comedy coming.

 

Which is very ironic when you think it through. That reasoning however does not consider the economic damage done to out of work US citizens whose life expectancies are actually dropping.

 

Yes, you should stop doing that. I gave you the facts. Your claim was completely refuted. You should move on to something else.

 

And the economic effects on US workers are ???

 

You should actually do some homework on a comparison of the economic recession recovery of the Obama administration and every other economic recession recovery. But you won't. Sad.

 

You're always going to get an acception to the rule, so not "never". Just like not "ALL" cons are total morons.

 

Depends on which workers. Overall, if the net economic impact is positive, the net impact on jobs is positive. Illegal immigrants, perhaps even more so than legal immigrants, tend to complement native work (again, overall) instead of competing.

 

Wrong, you haven't been paying attention, . . . since Trump's election campaign speeches actually.

Recent, elections have more to do with anti-establishment versus establishment, than dem versus rep. or vice versa.

Steve

 

As long as you keep thinking that reality is fantasy, and lies are real, you will be a Trumpet.

 

Obama did almost nothing...the Federal Reserve did almost it all. The Fed bailed out the banks directly (to the tune of $1.7 trillion). And TARP and the auto bailouts were on GWB's watch. And the QE's and ZIRP were the Fed. And the guy (Ben Bernanke) that ran the Fed during the Great Recession was a GWB guy.
I blame mostly the Fed and GWB (and Congress) for the Great Recession. But it was not Obama who ended the Great Recession, which would have ended had the Fed done nothing, btw. The 1920/21 Depression ended in 3 1/2 years with near zero government assistance. In fact, they lowered taxes and cut spending. Anyone who says you need government assistance to get out of a recession/depression simply does not know what they are talking about.

Where exactly did I say that Mexico will pay for the wall?

Fine. Look at American obesity - it is astronomical. And don't give me this crap that Americans would starve without illegal workers picking crops. And the poor have food stamps anyway...so they will be fine.

Also, those tens/hundreds of thousands of jobs will go to Americans...which means just that many fewer people on the unemployment line.

 

your claim was refuted. I gave you the facts. Put down the shovel and move on. It's gone from amusing, to just sad now.

 

They take jobs by working for less than US citizens.

 

Claiming that the Obama recovery was not the weakest is indeed a fantasy.

 

The fact is that the Obama recovery is th weakest since the Depression. Data clearly shows that.

 

Not according to most of the economists I've read. Not in the net. I sure do miss the free market conservatives that used to be so commonplace. Seems they've scattered ever since Trump.

 

Cons always cop out when they get caught twisting the truth. It was Obama that had to sign the legislation for the bailout. It was Obama's policies that brought the country out of recession. It was Obama's policies that gave investors and other countries the faith in markets to reinvest again. Without government assistance Banks would never have come back, because they were bankrupt, and the government BAILED THEM OUT!

And if you voted for the republicans, you bought the "Mexico will pay for it".

And I said nothing about the obese....I said that food will cost more.

And you know that food stamps have been cut to the poor.

I just exposed all your lies.

 

The Federal Reserve is NOT the government. It is a privately-owned institution with shares. It is NOT part of the government. Obama did NOT sign for the bank OR auto bailout. And it was the Fed that bailed out the banks by purchasing their toxic assets to the tune of $1.7 trillion...and that was before Obama even entered office. And ZIRP began long before Obama was even elected.

I have never voted for Reps or Dems in my entire life...I despise both parties. I am an independent. You sure make a LOT of erroneous assumptions.

But you did not answer my question.

You typed: 'First you say that Mexico will pay for the wall, now you say it will pay for itself.'

I will ask you again, where EXACTLY did I say that Mexico will pay for the wall?

 

And I clearly refuted this.