Do you agree with race realism?

If I find a bleached out human skeleton from 100 years ago I can determine the race of the person (negroid, caucasoid or mongoloid) simply by examining the skeletal characteristics. There are genetic differences between the races and this translates into differences in behavior and IQ distribution. For example, by adulthood, Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks. This is scientific fact and not in dispute.

 

And your post is a great example of a really stupid, broad brush and racist, to boot.

 

Right off the bat, "race realism" is incorrect. Talk to anyone with a biology education. Humans don't have sub-species. No, human "races" don't come close.

Actual examples of different subspecies include wolves (canis lupus lupus) and dogs (canis lupus familiaris) or humans (homo sapiens sapiens) and Neaderthals (homo sapiens neanderthalensis). The difference between various human "races" are no where close to the level of genetic and morphological differences that we see in these previous examples.

Humans are all members of the same subspecies: homo sapiens sapiens. If we had subspecies, we'd have the taxonomy to go along with it. We don't. Not even close.

 

If one defines the word species by their members being able to produce viable offspring after sexual intercourse with each other then the three major subdivisions within the human family are definitely not separate species.

However one could make the breed case that there are differences in discrete abilities which are probably too numerous to mention.

East Asians appear to score a full standard deviation above the mean in IQ testing but the question becomes what does that mean practically? If we are talking about earning potential it apparently means quite a lot but if one is talking about things not so basic, maybe not so much.

The bottom line is that every job deserves the best candidate and if we are operating under the notion of all human beings in every demographic will be found to be equally capable in the aggregate then anything found to counter that argument will be explained away as racism.

I find that argument facile.

 

In 1969 the Harvard Educational Review published an article by Berkeley Professor Arthur Jensen entitled, "How Much Can We Boost IQ and Achievement?" He argued that little can be done. Subsequent events have proved him right, as you can see from this chart.



Unfortunately, from then on Professor Jensen's classes were interrupted by new left radicals, he received death threats, and sometimes required police protection.

In September 1971 the Atlantic published an article by Professor Richard Herrnstein entitled "IQ." In this article Professor Herrnstein introduced assertions he was later to combine with Charles Murray in their 1994 book "The Bell Curve." In the spring of 1972 the new left organization Students for a Democratic Society held a convention at Harvard with the expressed intention to get Professors Jensen, Herrnstein, and others of like mind fired. Fortunately, SDS failed in their goal, and soon ceased to exist. Unfortunately, a precedent had been established for suppressing heriditarianism and race realism.

In 2006 Lawrence H. Summers, then President of Harvard, was forced to step down for claiming that men tend to have more mathematical aptitude than men.

In 1962 James Watson won the Nobel Prize for his work deciphering the chemical code of DNA. In 2007 he was forced to step down as Director of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory because he said that the low average IQ of African Negroes (which is 70, the boarder line of mental retardation) made him pessimistic about the future of sub Saharan Africa.

These are just a few examples of the sanctions placed against those who assert the importance of the relationship between genes and intelligence.

 

Professor J. Philippe Rushton deserves to be called "the Dean of Race Realism." In the following essay, which I shall excerpt from, Professor Rushton presents the basic assertions of race realism.

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RACE, EVOLUTION AND BEHAVIOR: A Life History Perspective
2nd Special Abridged Edition

Professor J. Philippe Rushton
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario, Canada N6A 5C2

On average, Orientals are slower to mature, less fertile, less sexually active, less aggressive, and have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole. Whites fall in the middle, but closer to Orientals than to Blacks...

Race differences start in the womb. Blacks are born earlier and grow quicker than Whites and Orientals. The three-way race pattern occurs in milestones such as sexual maturity, family stability, crime rates, and population growth...

Race differences exist in sexual behavior. The races differ in how often they like to have sexual intercourse. This affects rates of sexually transmitted diseases. On all the counts, Orientals are the least sexually active, Blacks the most, and Whites are in between...

The World Health Organization takes note of sexual diseases like syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes and chlamydia. They report low levels in China and Japan and high levels in Africa. European countries are in the middle.

The racial pattern of these diseases is also true in the U.S. The 1997 syphilis rate among Blacks was 24 times the White rate. The nationwide syphilis rate for Blacks was 22 cases per 100,000 people. It was 0.5 cases per 100,000 for Whites, and even lower for Orientals. A recent report found up to 25% of inner city girls (mainly Black) have chlamydia...

IQ tests measure intelligence and predict real life success. The races differ in brain size and on IQ tests. On average Orientals have the largest brains and highest IQs. Blacks average the lowest, and Whites fall in between. The brain size differences explain the IQ differences both within groups and between groups...

Cross-race adoptions give some of the best proof that the genes cause race differences in IQ. Growing up in a middle-class White home does not lower the average IQ for Orientals nor raise it for Blacks.

The Regression Law predicts that in the U.S., Black children with parents of IQ 115 will regress toward the Black average of 85, while White children with parents of IQ 115 will regress only toward the White average of 100.

The law also works at the other end of the scale. Black children with parents of IQ 70 will move up toward the Black average IQ of 85, but White children with parents of IQ 70 will move further up toward the White average of 100. When we test these predictions about Regression to the Average from parent to child they prove true.

The latest theory of human origins -- Out-of-Africa -- provides the final piece to the puzzle. It explains why r-K theory accounts for race differences in body, brain, and behavior. As races moved out of Africa they evolved away from r-type behaviors and toward K- type. Moving out of Africa meant increasing brain size and IQ, but lowering reproduction, aggression and sexual activity...

As humans left Africa, their bodies, brains and behavior changed. To deal with the colder winters and scarcer food supply of Europe and Northeast Asia, the Oriental and White races moved away from an r-strategy toward the K-strategy. This meant more parenting and social organization, which required a larger brain size and a higher IQ.

http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

 

Hmm, but sometimes different cultures can exist within a society.

 

And it is utterly meaningless. Intergroup variations, which are created by averaging many individuals, are always exceeded by intragroup variations, which are the individuals themselves. Any variations seen are artifacts of the mensuration itself.

I find it significant that not ONE of these 'studies' has ever been done by a race that wasn't one of the favored ones.

 

Here is a map of the clusters of human DNA with the races clearly delineated.


https://pjt111.wordpress.com/tag/genetic-variation/

 

Can you explain this?

 

Well, I used to be able to, but only to those who understand linear algebra.

Basically, they are treating genetic variation as a vector space and finding two vectors which explain most of the variation, projecting a very high dimension vector space into a two dimensional vector space.

 

Can you tell us how that chart applies to what we are discussing?

 

Well, you were misinformed.

You said race was meaningless because between group variations were larger than intra group variations. This chart shows how the races do form distinct clusters.

 

What matters is that there are significant average racial differences in characteristics necessary for successful societies and civilizations. These are intelligence, obedience to the law, and monogamy. These differences persist despite expensive efforts to close race gaps. This is impressive evidence that the differences are genetic and intractable.

 

Oxymoron... Conservative Democrat...you must be conflicted most of the time

 

Professor Philippe Rushton, the Dean of Race Realism, acknowledges that Orientals tend to be more intelligent, more obedient to the law, and more monogamous than whites.

Jared Taylor, has often been accused of being a white supremacist. This is what he has written:

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Asians have faced fierce discrimination in America, but this has not stopped them from working hard and getting ahead.
In fact, they have been so successful in "racist" America that whites have even begun to complain about Asian achievement.
Whether one looks at Japanese and Chinese, who have been in America for generations, or Koreans and Vietnamese, who have
arrived more recently, Asians have been remarkably successful...

The achievements of more recent Asian immigrants have been well publicized. Everyone has heard of Vietnamese children who
came to America unable to speak English and then, a few years later, graduated at the tops of their high-school classes...

Throughout this period of constant prejudice and persecution, Chinese worked hard, saved their money, and built better lives for
themselves. By the time they had full, legal standing in this country, many Chinese had incomes comparable to those of native-born whites. By 1969, Chinese as a group outearned Italian, German, and even Anglo-Saxon Americans.

During the 1960s, Chinatown was the part of San Francisco with the most unemployment and poverty, the highest rate of tubercu-
losis, the least education, and the most substandard housing.

Nevertheless, in 1965, only five people of Chinese ancestry went to jail in the whole state of California. 377

- Jared Taylor, "Paved with Good Intentions"
http://archive.org/stream/Paved-Wit...ed-With-Good-Intentions-Jared-Taylor_djvu.txt



Wherever you look, Asians outperform whites academically and financially...

we have a considerably less than one standard deviation difference between Asian IQ — North Asian IQ — and white IQ. I think that, too, is a result of genetics, and I think that that is what explains the dominance of Asians in certain fields, and their lower rates of illegitimacy compared to whites, their lower crime rates, their better achievement in school, their higher average incomes...

I think Asians are objectively superior to whites by just about any measure that you can come up with in terms of what are the ingredients for a successful society.

- Jared Taylor Interview
http://www.amren.com/interviews/1999/1221russell-nieli.html

 

What did I say that is not true? How am I conflicted?

 

I was referring to your username

 

I am a conservative because I am pessimistic about human nature and human potential. I think there is often wisdom in tradition. I am a Democrat because I think the government has an important role to play in society.

In practical terms I am conservative on many social issues, and liberal on environmental and economic issues.

 

So I guess any followers of this theory must be very much against Trump's attitude of hostility to China. After, all, the Chinese have gotten where they are by inherent genetic superiority and it is our duty and fate as rational beings to accept positions subordinate to them. Perhaps if we are very nice they will let us make shoes in their factories.

 

Most everything and in every way. You cherry-pick and emphasize everything that agrees with you and ignore anything that doesn't. The idea that anyone is superior on inferior to anyone mainly as an accident of birth and independent of what they actually DO is race delusion, no realism about it.

 

Guess I hit a nerve while being racist against myself (???)

I am on a facepalm diet, it's an appropriate response every day, several times a day, and I just got tired of using it.

So here is a metaphorical facepalm, this happens every generation, and the end result is never in doubt.

 

Speaking only for myself, I expect China to achieve world hegemony by the end of this century, if not sooner. I hope that by the time it does it accepts a democratic government, and adopts a non coercive way to control population growth. The population of Japan is slowly declining. I love China, but not the Chinese dictatorship. From the death of Mao Tse Tung in 1976 to the Tiananmen Square Massacre mainland China was evolving in ways I liked.

History is moving in China's direction, and against that of the United States. I hope that the Chinese government is not tempted to increase the velocity of history with military regression.

The east is not red. It is where the future is. If you have children, try to get them to learn Mandarin.

 

Authoritarianism has worked for the Chinese so there is no reason to change and they have a hard on for revenge against the Japanese. Too historical to go away. So I’m glad I’m not in Japan.

 

If nearly everything I said is not true it should be easy to quote one statement of mine, and explain why it is not true.

I evaluate individuals and races by their ability to contribute to civilization. I think intelligence is most important, followed by inclinations toward law obedience and monogamy. I believe that intelligence is primarily determined by intelligence, and that inclinations toward law obedience and monogamy are largely influenced by genes. The Chinese lack Western squeamishness about looking for genetic reasons for intelligence and behavior. If Western scientists do not find characteristics, Chinese scientists will.