Trump was correct, children are basically immune

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  1. TCassa89

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    Whether you are interpreting the statement as a lie, or as a mere expression not intended to be taken for its medical meaning, it is still a false statement none the less. That is to say, children are not immune to the virus. If you want to argue that the statement wasn't intended to be interpreted as children actually being immune to the virus, that's fine.. but arguing that children actually are immune to the virus is illogical
     
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    A former Harris campaign worker removed the FB post so that means nothing except politics not science
     
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    You intentionally and dishonesty leave out the word basically from the Trump quote.

    Basically
    b: for the most part


    basically
    (ˈbeɪsɪklɪ)
    adv
    1. in a fundamental or elementary manner; essentially: strident and basically unpleasant.
    2. (sentence modifier) in essence; in summary; put simply: basically we had underestimated mother nature.
     
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    Basically
    b; For the most part

    For the most part, meaning;

    a. Something is generally......
    b. Something is mostly
    c. Something is mainly

    For the most part, children are IMMUNE against Covid19.

    Wrong, wrong, and wrong!
     
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    Your opinion is based on Trump hate so it's worthless
     
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    Your being in love with Trump has nothing to do with the empirical data accrued and analyzed by public health experts.

    Why do you need to project your "basically" emotional relationship to Trump onto others.

    As has been explained to you, "Typhoid Mary", an asymptomatic carrier who spread disease, was, by no stretch of a wild imagination, "basically immune."

     
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    Which has nothing to do with the fact that children are basically immune
     
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    If your inamorata told you that any individuals infected with coronavirus are "basically immune" you must believe, despite its being false.

    Rational folks (most) not so amorously smitten recognize that reality-tv performers spouting nonsense that far more knowledgable public heath experts do not accept is worthless.

    Again, despite your refusal to accept the revelatory example I provided, Typhoid Mary was not "basically immune." She contracted the disease, carried it, and infected others with it.
     
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    A rabid Trump hater talking about rational people?:roflol:
     
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    The makers of Lysol and Chlorox also hate Trump....

    The reason why they had to warned the public after Trump’s remarks was to make him look bad.

    All people who hate Trump have misinterpreted his semantic language.
     
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    Your blind devotion to your Trump and unquestioning faith in all he tells you leads you to believe that the majority of Americans who disapprove of him must be "rabid Trump haters."

    Your passion causes you to mistake a reasoned conclusion with a matter of the heart such as drives you.

    You appear to be rendered so incapable of accepting reality that you cannot even honestly acknowledge that Typhoid Mary, a virulent carrier and transmitter of disease, was not, by any stretch, "basically immune."
     
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    And done so purposely
     
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    I'm surprised that you would bring this up. The camp said they followed all of the procedures, they masked, they distanced, etc. Hmm..
     
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    Trumps wording was perfect. Children are basically immune. Only a moron would think that means they can't spread covid. The rest of us know exactly what Trump meant which is children themselves suffer few if any effects from Covid.
     
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    You are totally bemused.......

    YOUR other thread titled; “Lasting immunity seen after mild Covid19 infection”

    Lasting immunity seen AFTER mild Covid19 infection

    Lasting Immunity seen AFTER an infection
    Immunity AFTER an infection
    AFTER an infection
    AFTER

    Immunity comes AFTER an infection, thus, no one is immune or basically immune before an infection.
     
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    As I said everyone but Trump haters know what Trump meant by basically immune. Children suffer from it's effects only in extremely rare cases and are generally asymptomatic.
     
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    Are generally asymptomatic?

    I’ve read several studies, and the last one, 18% were asymptomatic, thus, had no symptoms.

    Thus, before I rattle your cage, what’s you definition of “generally”?
     
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    For your reading pleasure.



    "I think that probably 80% of the children have coronavirus. We are not testing children. I'm in New York City. I can't get my patients tested. And we have to assume, if they are sick, they have coronavirus. Most of them, probably 80 to 90% of them, are asymptomatic. So, these numbers are so skewed. I think that the mortality rate is way, way less than 0.5% for children who have it because it is so prevalent. You have to remember thousands of kids die from flu a year. This is much, much less virulent in children."


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-children-pediatrician-80-percent-asymptomatic/
     
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    Gotcha!

    Title of your link; Pediatrician says 80% of kids likely have Covid19, but they’re so asymptomatic you’d never know.

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    NOTES;

    Said Pediatrician is using the right term “Asymptomatic”, thus, Bravo! and according to his patients;

    Children are basically Asymptomatic
    For the most part, Children are Asymptomatic
    Generally, Children are Asymptomatic
    Most children are Asymptomatic
    Children are virtually Asymptomatic
    Children are mainly Asymptomatic
    Predominantly, Children are Asymptomatic
     
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    So if Trump said asymptomatic instead of basically immune all would be well with you? Works for me because most of us knew that’s exactly what he meant.
     
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    Same Pedriatician said 80% of kids likely have Covid19

    80% likely have Covid19 is the opposite of immunity or basically immune.
     
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    Yes. It would not make it sound S if that can’t spread the virus... which was his intent
     
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    If you need to believe your Trump is infallible, you will swallow the erroneous notion that an individual infected by a virus, and capable of infecting others with that virus, is somehow "immune" to that virus. Your blind faith in your Trump may compel you to express that blind faith by presuming to speak for some nebulous "rest of us" but you can cite no public health expert who would be such a moron that she would opine that children are "basically immune."

    You would do well to respect the guidelines of the experts at the Center for Disease Control instead of quibbling over a reality-tv performer's falsehood:

    Beyond fever, other symptoms that may appear in children include cough, diarrhea, fatigue, shortness of breath or sore throat. In addition, nausea or vomiting, muscle or body aches, cough and congestion or runny nose are possible.​

    It is not only important to protect children from COVID-19, but steps should be taken to prevent them from spreading it.

    To prevent spreading COVID-19, CDC recommends that children over 2 years old wear masks. In person playtime with other children should be limited and monitored by adults, and they should not interact with anyone who is at high risk due to age or chronic medical condition.
    To advocate for anything more lax is willfully irresponsible.
     
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    CDC is run by the establishment and lost all credibility when Fauci lied to us about mask.
     
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    Saying they are immune for the most part is also inaccurate
     

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